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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by voglernut, Dec 14, 2002.

  1. voglernut

    voglernut LawnSite Member
    Messages: 35

    the pastor of my church told me to give him a bid on mowing the church property. before i tell him my bid, i want your opinion. it's just under 5 1/2 acres and it's all flat. no trees. i have a 60" ZTR. there is some trimming to do but mostly mowing. i figure i can do it by myself in a couple of hours. does $110 per mowing sound about right to you guys. i'm brand new at this bidding thing. remember, it's also my church. i'm sure i'll probably be asking your opinion on other properties in the future. thanks for all your comments and advice.
  2. Lawn-N-Garden Guy

    Lawn-N-Garden Guy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 321

    If it were my church I would charge for the equip.and help and donate my share to the church then use it as a tax right off.
  3. grassdaddy

    grassdaddy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 565

    that sounds about right, if it turns out you can actually do all them acres in 2 hours.
  4. CMerLand

    CMerLand LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 393

    Garden Guy,

    Personal services provided to a non profit are not tax deductible. Was asked to provide a years service contract for a friends charity and spelled out all the terms of putting a value on the cost, then learned from my accountant that this would not be tax deductible. I could obviously deduct the cost of my paid laborers to be at the site, but not the full value of what I would charge if they were paying.

    Still waiting to hear from the winner to find out where his lawn is.

  5. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    This has been discussed before, and the part about the service donation not being fully tax exempt is correct. However, if you DID want to have it exempt, collect the full amount, and write it as a donation afterwards. This way, you have billed and recieved the monies, and now you are donating the actual money.
    Now, let's get to the real deal. No one said you were donating all that to the church, right? That's fine, too. As far as the price, that sounds very fair. You always want to do right by your church for a number of reasons. Mainly, being the obvious, it's the right thing to do.
    Look at it this way; Mowing 5 1/2 acres of flat church turf $110.00
    Impressing an entire congregation of potential future customers;

    LAWNS AND MOWER LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,129

    I started mowing my new church 3 years ago. Takes 1 1/2 hours, $75/cut. What I did was raise my pledge amt. by 50%. I don't bill the church for my services until I reach my pledged amount in terms of mowing. Strange when the plate goes by every week. Think to myself, just look outside at that beautiful yard. There's my offerring.:angel: :angel: :angel:
  7. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
    Messages: 10,178

    dont charge? hmmm, interesting. when my children were baptized(my wifes doing), i was required to give a "mandatory donation". you see, it wasnt a fee, it was a "mandatory donation" . and there was a $100 minimum! it took this guy 45 min, to "baptize" 12 children. at a minimum of $100 a pop, thats alot of dough for babbling a few words and eating a cookie, and splashing some water. charge !!!!
  8. KLMlawn

    KLMlawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 443

    Hummm... why does this scam sound familiar ???

    When I was going to be wed to my first wife, I remember that the Catholic Church (her desire) wanted a "mandatory donation" of something in the area of $300 to perform the service. Then in speaking with the priest, he wanted me to become baptised (seeing as I never was formally brought up in any specific religion) which required another "madatory donation", I think there was mention of Pre-Caina classes, again requiring a "madatory donation", and all this was aside from the usual county clerk fee for the license.

    In the end, the church didn't get a dime of the close to $1000 they were expecting and we were very happy to have the Justice of the Peace marry us, including the County licensing fee for a total of about $275 ...

    Why should ANY place of worship for any religion be absolved from paying taxes and being accountable when most make HUGE amounts of untraceable money from "donations" - mandatory or otherwise, but we, the working stiffs, have every dollar scrutinized and taxed at least 2-3 times as it passes thru each and every one of our hands.
    Just sit back and think about the average usable length of time every bill printed for circulation has ... we will say 5 years to be conservative but I am sure that in many instances, it is much more. Consider how many times in that 5 year period, does that $1, $5, $10, $20, $50, or $100 change hands, either in practice or on paper ... and every time, it is (suppose to be) taxed.
    And another thing to consider ... after you have been overwhelmed by figuring out the amount of money our gorvernment makes every day off every dollar in circulation, maybe you can answer the question as to why our goverment is in debt.
  9. GrassCtr

    GrassCtr LawnSite Member
    from south
    Messages: 25

    Being a Baptist I have never heard of a mandatory "fee" for baptisism. If you become saved and accept Christ the next step is to be baptized, no charge for that. Anything that charges would raise a BIG flag to me.
  10. wojo23323

    wojo23323 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 608

    The church has operating expenses just like your business. They need to charge "donations" to stay in business. They have salaries to pay, mortgage and utility bills just like any other business. I have not been to church in years, but if you are a member of a church you should pay your fair share. As for charging for services my opinion is you should charge them what your equipment costs are or swap your services for an ad in the church bulletin or newsletter.

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