How Long Will This Take?

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by adamhumberview, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. adamhumberview

    adamhumberview LawnSite Member
    Messages: 4

    Hey guys,

    I am new to the site. I was wondering for some input from some of you guys and your thoughts.

    We got 1- Z-Turn 60" Deck mower, 2- trimmers, 2- blower packs.

    How long would a 3-4 man crew take to mow and trim 50 acres of boulevards? All within a 5 mile radius.

    I personally think 4.5 working days of 9 hrs a day.
  2. metro36

    metro36 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,417

    Really need more information. Is it just a long strip of grass along each side of the road? If not, how many sections is it broken up into. How wide are they? How often are they being cut? How much trimming is there? Do you have to pick up trash?

    I would think that you are a little high with your estimated time but it is hard to say without knowing more. If you figure on 2.5 acres an hour then it would take you 20 hrs to mow. If you have travel time between sections that will cut down on productivity. With 4 guys, 1 mowing 2 trimming, and 1 cleaning up with the blower I would think you could finish in 3 9 hour days. Dont forget that this type of work tends to be hard on equipment so you will have to figure in extra maintenance/ repair.
  3. TNGrassCutter

    TNGrassCutter LawnSite Bronze Member
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  4. Glenn Lawn Care

    Glenn Lawn Care LawnSite Silver Member
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    With one mower it will take a while Haha
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  5. crazymike

    crazymike LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 452

    A zero turn, 60" might cut about 4-5 acres an hour wide open. BLVDs have trees usually. You would cut about 2-3 acres an hour.

    You have 20 hours of mowing alone. What are you trimming? Tree rings? Sidewalks? Buildings?

    Straight open trimming you're looking at 1000-1500 linear feet an hour. If it's trimming tree rings and firehydrants, it will be like 100' an hour.

    As for blowing, if it's sidewalks, the zero turn can probably blast down the sidewalk and blow away most of it. But generally speaking, you will blow about 1/2 acre an hour.

    You need either less men or more equipment. 4 guys will be tripping over each other or standing around.
  6. crazymike

    crazymike LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 452

    Also, if it's for the boulevard maintenance in vaughan, it will go for so cheap, it's not worth you taking.

    If you decide to bid it, plan on doing a fast crappy job with minimal profit margin.

    Just looking at the bid takers list for that job, someone like grounds guys will go in at about 1/2 the price you can even do it for.

    Not trying to be a downer, just the way it is.
  7. crazymike

    crazymike LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 452

    There is 50 bid takers on that job. I thought it was bad in the East end, lol
  8. adamhumberview

    adamhumberview LawnSite Member
    Messages: 4

    I am definetly not worried about The Grounds Guys.. those guys cant pick up city work if they depended on it.

    It will be an interesting tender opening thats for sure. There is not heavy $$ in boulevards because they are not looking for beauty.. they are looking for results.
  9. adamhumberview

    adamhumberview LawnSite Member
    Messages: 4

    theres only 15 registered official takers.. you gotta pick up the full document at the city office..

    should be more worried about some people who recently bid $4000.00 A YEAR.. when the rest of the pack were avg $20,000-35,000 A YEAR!!

    With the proper equipment and route system in place, we can cut 23 hectares in 4 days and do a CLEAN JOB. At the end of the day.. its all about the route.
  10. crazymike

    crazymike LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 452

    When people go in way lower, there bid is usually ignored.

    But when they are like $5000 cheaper, the city jumps on it.

    If you bid the job to do it properly and make money, you won't get it.

    You need to either sacrifice quality or profit. Or pray for a hot summer and not have to cut much.

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