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How many hours?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jtrice11, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. jtrice11

    jtrice11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    For all you experienced guys, how many hours do you get out of a ZTR (say toro or exmark) before they need to be retired? Taking into consideration that they are maintainted properly.
  2. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,943

    Specifically, why are you asking...?

    I've seen ZTR's with 1000hrs look like crap, and I've seen some nice looking ones with 3000+hrs.

    There are a lot of variables.

    Here are some.

    Storage (inside or out)
    Trailered or on site (trailer bouncing will wear out mowers quickly)
    Owner operater or Careless crew operater
    Careful crew operator or Careless Owner operator
    Greased daily or weekly or monthly to never
    Oil/filter change at 50-100hrs or 250 to never
    Same with hydro oil/filter

    Cant think of any more right now.

    Age is also a consideration.

    You have P/T operators with 4-6 years and under 1000 hrs.

    And you have Commercial units that are racking up 2000 hrs per season.
  3. jtrice11

    jtrice11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    THe main reason I'm asking is because we bought a brand new one this year (our first), and I am wondering how long its gonna last us. I know that's a tougher question to answer now based on your response. RIght now its going about 20 hrs a week, next year I'm shooting for double that or more.
  4. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,943

    Deck supports start getting loose around 12-1400 hrs. Thats the most annoying part.
    Idler arm bushings are now bearings, so that shouldn't be an issue any longer. Just make sure you release all belt tensions at each oil change when you grease these idler arms (3 of them)
    Engines should last 3K hrs with proper maint.
    Todays hydros are better than just 5 years ago.
  5. ProLawns

    ProLawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 476

    What do you mean?
  6. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,943

    Mule drive (engine to deck belt) idler pulley.

    Hydro pump (engine to hydro pumps) idler pulley.

    Deck belt idler pulley.

    If you don't remove the tension, grease cannot go where it's needed as the pivot point has a tighter clearance (none) than the back side. Grease just goes in the zerk, and comes out at the easiest place (not where it's needed).
  7. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,943

  8. bushtrimmer

    bushtrimmer LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 351

    We just replaced a 6 year old Lazer Z with over 4000 hours on it. The old one is still running, only burning a lot of oil and losing compression.
  9. jtrice11

    jtrice11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    Sweet, that's what I wanted to hear!
  10. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,360

    I think I would have put a new motor on it and made it a backup or second mower.

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