Now that makes me feel a bit more at ease. In a nut shell that is my story. However, I am going to try a second time, just this time my plan (business plan) is to grow slowly. I have a much better understanding of what I need to do and not do. #1 DON'T under cut your price, if they can't or don't want to afford it, just walk away. Your better off watching Jerry Springer than paying to mow someone else lawn!