This is an awsome read, very informative and some of the best info i have come across in a long time. Im on page 14 and have read every word so far but before i fall asleep i want to get this post in . I started a small lawn/landscape biz last summer with a buddy that fizzled out by october, we went about it half assed with no plan so im not surprised it failed, however i really enjoyed working for myself and think i caught the small business bug. Im considering taking some small business classes next semester at a community college and i still have some equiptment so im also thinking about giving it another try in the spring (by myself this time). The more i read here the more im seeing talk about having a good business plan, I would love it if someone who has been succesfull could post a real working example of a business plan that has helped them to become succesfull in this industry. or maybe point me in the direction of something already on the net that would be specific to this industry. I know there is tons of info out there already but its overwelming. I would love to see what an acctual lawn care/lanscape business plan looks like just to get a feel for what i need to do. You guys all seem to have been there and done that, these stories are great, I feel like im getting an education here Fantastic thread!