Before this thread closes. I am glad I stayed solo over the years. I make a good income and all equipment is paid for. If I go down tomorrow all I would loose is my customers. I hope that does not happen because I enjoy taking care of my customers. This old fart does not like cold weather and I make enough income to only take care of my regular customers fall cleanup and then take the winter off. I have one last question about companys getting to big. What has happened to all those companys that loaded up push mowers only and under bid lawn cuts? They were everywhere 2 years ago and I have not seen any this year in Memphis.