How To Get Rid of bermuda Grass....?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by Lost Pine, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. Lost Pine

    Lost Pine LawnSite Member
    Messages: 194

    Is there a application that I can use to get rid of Bermuda grass without affecting Fescue...?
  2. david shumaker

    david shumaker LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 721

    Turflon Ester is suppose to help control it.
  3. cpa4t9r

    cpa4t9r LawnSite Member
    Messages: 124

    Turflon tankmixed with Acclaim Extra - 3 apps 1 mo apart in the summer/active growing months. Turflon w/Fusillade II (Ornamec) also works well - apps in spring and late summer.

    I've done both and had success. Trials I've seen seem to indicate that Acclaim/Turflon mix can be more consistent - plus I can spot treat any other grassy weeds while I'm at it. Both mixes can produce control rates of 90%+ in trials I've seen, but really dependent on site conditions/variables.
  4. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Messages: 7,051

    Thanks for the info. I have a potential customer that inquired about getting rid of a area of Bermuda grass that is creeping it's way into the neighbor's lawn. I don't have a license to apply and want to know that my weed control guy is on the ball, if you will. I in no way will do any application work without a license, it just ain't going to happen. Last thing I need is a hefty fine to go along with all the other expenses in the business. I'll leave it to my go to fert and squirt guy that does all that part. Besides, he doesn't cut lawns, all he does is chemical application so we feed each other with potential work. It's a win win for both of us. :)
  5. cpa4t9r

    cpa4t9r LawnSite Member
    Messages: 124

    If it is an area that is primarily bermuda - then glyphosphate it. Just make sure that it gets hit 3 times ~2-3 weeks apart while its actively growing. I've read where the kill percentage gets up to 90+% consistently/permanently vs. 1-2 apps. Of course, now you've got a dead spot during unfavorable conditions for cool-season grasses....but you should be able to sell some seed/fert. The selective route is more of a "control" but after a 2-3 year program, it's gone.
  6. jspray

    jspray LawnSite Member
    Messages: 155

    Acclaim Extra plus triclopyr/2,4-D ester is the best with 2-3 applications in the summer. Triclopyr acts as accelerator agent with no actual herbicide effect.
  7. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,975

    Partially true. Triclopyr is also an antidote for the phytotoxic effect of a "fop" herbicide on tolerant grasses. I had lots of problems applying fluzafop on zoysia for bermuda control until I tank mixed with Turflon Ester.
  8. lawnspecialties

    lawnspecialties LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,524

    Perfect advice. This is exactly NCSU's recommended "method of attack".

    By the way, take the winter time to mark your bermuda spots in the yard. Since the bermuda goes dormant, it should be the only "white" grass in the fescue turf. If you don't have to spray the entire yard next summer, save your money.
  9. jspray

    jspray LawnSite Member
    Messages: 155

    There is a problem with the Fusilade label and summer applications as July and August applications are not recommended.

    Original question was about bermuda control in fescue which leads to Acclaim applications during summer.

    This issue was covered by Dr. Fred Yelverton, NCSU Weed Scientist at a meeting this week.

    Applications with Fusilade would have to be spring and fall.
  10. lilmarvin4064

    lilmarvin4064 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 757

    I don’t think you would want to add the 2,4-D in the mix since it is antagonistic with the Acclaim.

    Triclopyr also reduces the “bleaching” effect caused by mesotrione.

    I would agree, but I tried an experiment this year. I sprayed full rates of Ornamec + Turflon ester over a 80% bermuda / 20% fescue stand in August and did not see any signs of phyto’ on the fescue; granted I sprayed a couple days after a rain shower, in the evening, about 70 - 75 degrees. I noticed bermuda discoloration in 2 to 3 days, and total kill took about 3-4 weeks (not much rain).

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