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How to improve on your demo's

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by The Lighting Geek, Nov 18, 2007.

  1. The Lighting Geek

    The Lighting Geek LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 886

    OK, I think we have debated to nausium pros and cons of demos. I wanted to start a thread for those of us who choose to do demo's and how can do a better one.

    Please chime in...
  2. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
    from usa
    Messages: 1,988

    Okay, this is demo post #3 or #4 in a week. You think a fresh start will keep out debates or comments from fence sitters or the no-demo guys? You started a great topic and we got great responses from everyone, even those who don't do demo's. Just let it keep rolling.

    I would like to know more about 3 specific things, I'm still a beginner, and have only done 3 demo's with a small set I made for myself, based on a 300 watt transformer.

    (1) How are you placing temporary fixtures on roofs (see my roof-rig thread)?

    (2) What is your transformer configuration for 40 plus fixtures? I guess I could use surge-protectors or similar as hubs, as I am using spliced extension cords and sockets on the transormer for quick set-ups.

    (3) What steps do you take for leaving a demo up for multiple days?

    My latest interest is in getting a professional-looking container set up, and I'm looking at 2 Stanley products (one $50 the other $100), plus Lowe's has another product that matches my tool bag (image attached). I was very impressed with your truck. I have a new f-150, but I don't want a cap or cover (the weather should be fine the evenings I haul the stuff out). I bought a chrome moon-lighter (ironic name) ladder rack, and now I need to pick a good all-around ladder (any recommendations?). The ladder purchase is new to me, as I am finally getting over my fear of heights (this happened after I built a deer stand and shot my first buck, lol). At present I have a few step ladders.

    Thanks for any help!


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  3. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Kingsland, Texas
    Messages: 2,214

    Mike, my trucks carry a 6', 8', 12' step ladders and a 32' extension ladder (on 1 truck and a 40' on the other). This pretty much takes care of everything.
  4. ChampionLS

    ChampionLS LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,066


    That looks pretty nice.. You might want to also check out Pelican Products (www.pelican.com) they make very heavy duty cases. You would probably be interested in stage/studio/camera man cases. They come in sizes big enough to put a car engine in!.

  5. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,186

    I used to use those new Kichler plug in hubs for my demos, but I had trouble with the plugs coming apart after about 7-10 demos. I now have just gone to running wire and using temporary (non siliconed) wire nuts to splice everything together. It takes a little longer, but seems to work alright and I can reuse the connectors for the next time.
  6. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
    from usa
    Messages: 1,988

    Mike, my trucks carry a 6', 8', 12' step ladders and a 32' extension ladder (on 1 truck and a 40' on the other).

    I have to go higher than 4'? Just kidding. I guess I'll fork over the money for a good 32, plus refill my Xanax prescription.
  7. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
    from usa
    Messages: 1,988


    I'm getting a Pelican case eventually to put my transformer inside, they have an O-ring accessory which would be great for weather-proofing (leaving a demo up multiple days). Look at the pic #3, drill holes for the wires, better yet, use recessed outlets for wire connections!!!

    Wish I could afford a whole set of these pelicans. They have every size imaginable, and nice foam cases for bulbs, etc. Just dreaming for now.

    I googled and found them way under retail.

  8. Mike M

    Mike M LawnSite Bronze Member
    from usa
    Messages: 1,988

  9. steveparrott

    steveparrott LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,276

    For great custom cases at reasonable prices, I suggest you check out http://www.ameripack.com/.

    For the purpose of full disclosure, I photographed the landscape lighting at the President's home -an awesome design. He's a big fan of landscape lighting and would certainly appreciate the opportunity to do custom work for lighting guys.
  10. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    I dont think you should have to demo roof top fixtures. Often times you can use a narrower higherwattage bulb and achieve close to the same effect from the ground as you would from the roof. The final install would of course be roof mounted.

    If you were dead set on it I would think a small 1'x1' piece of plywood would do the trick to hold a fixture in place... Glue a rubber non slip drawer liner or similar to the bottom of it.

    We rigged up our demo kit with regular outlets on the ends of the 12ga leads and all the fixtures have 25 ft leads with 2 prong plugs on the ends. Run the leads out to the area... place fixtures and plug it in. Im sure its nor near as slick as Tommys set up but we dont set it up but maybe once a month. We only use it as a tool to convey our thoughts to a client and to determine the best way to light difficult areas. We dont use it as a way in the door.

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