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HI GUYS ,TRYING TO GET A IDEA ON PRICING (CAPE COD MA )

1. LAWNS SAY IT TAKES A HR TO DO IT???

2.HOW MUCH A FOOT ON EDGING ???

3. I GET 25.00 A MAN HR. IS THIS TO HI OR LOW??


THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE
 

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all ill say is way to low.
 

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step #1=get calculator, figure out how much per hr it costs u to operate, when you are done scratching your head, do the math again, yes, it came out right the first time. step #2=stop crying, figure out a way to lower your costs, and then charge accordingly. at $25 an hour you will be gone, or homeless, in 4 months. i try to get at least $60 an hour to mow. sometimes its $100 an hour, other times its $45 an hour, just as long as it averages out to $60, im ok. but mowing alone wont do it. add higher value things that can be done at the same time as mowing ex: applications
 

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definitely do some reading, then do some adding to your prices.
Once you actually get into what it REALLY takes to run a business, you will see the need to be charging $50-$60.
Hidden items people don't see initially, like insurance, maintenance of equipment and vehicles, drive time, etc.
it's all a learning process, but I would recommend going a bit higher.
We try to stay close to $50, but will price what the market will bear if we know differently!
Good luck
 

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thinks 4 the help ,mowing i get 60.00 per hr
but most are 30mi or lest 30.00 to 35.00
what i get 25.00 per man hr is cleanups or edging cutting new beds. how to gest how long it going to take???
 

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Originally posted by fraz001
how to gest how long it going to take???
One word.....expierence!

You just have to live and learn.....that's just the way it is. You will lose some and win some.

MATT
 

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Something that has always baffled me since I've been at this site, is how almost everyone on here, from the east coast to the west coast, and everywhere in between, always falls back to the " $50 to $60 an hour load of crap" when talking about mowing. Why does everyone fall for this when pricing talk comes up? Why? Yet everything else with equipment costs and insurance costs and all the other overhead costs are worlds apart from area to area. Just in the short three years I've been in business my costs have changed so dramatically that it's some-days unbelievable. If the only advice I would have ever stuck with would have been the talk of " $50 to $60 an hour", I'd be up a creek. And that doesn't necessarily mean I need or get more than that per hour, many variables in every job you do or quote. If you can't figure out what your per hour costs are and then add a profit percent, you shouldn't be trying to run a business. Because it simply means you have no idea what you are doing or where you should be going. I'm all for this site and the information that gets shared about many things, but for someone to rely on others information about the financial end of the business is going to be a sure way for you to take a trip down bankruptcy boulevard. Anyone that finds this offensive to them surely has no idea how to run a business. The most important thing anyone can do is to learn the numbers end of the business. The problem is, nobody wants to, or puts forth nearly the amount of effort as they do when they go purchase a stupid lawn mower and then proceed to talk about it for weeks on end in pointless discussions to someone ten states away. Maybe, they should be enrolling in a small business seminar or night classes at a tech school. I guess that's what separates the business owners from the wannabes. God knows I have a lot to learn myself, but I'm doing something about it besides just taking someone elses advice and then trying to apply it to my certain and specific criteria.

Besides, the last industry trade magazine survey by landscape companies across the country, put the average hourly mowing at about $37 an hour, and that's what companies were charging per man hour, whether it be trimming or mowing or whatever.

And P.S., I could really care less who is offended by my comments, so don't bother bashing back at me, it'll just back my theory even more. If a person want's to succeed at a business, it is solely their responsibility to educate themselves on how to do so, not ask someone else.
 

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Randy...you have a bad day....just kiddin'.

That was an excellent post. True...what one company needs per hour might be totally different than what the other needs. It all comes down to YOUR cost. Here in the last couple of weeks I have been doing some serious job costing.....carry a pen and paper with me at every job....writing down drive time to job, time spent on edger, trimmer, mower, aerator, overseeder, dethatcher, blower, material used, how many hours can you get on a tank of gas...you get my point. People see what they can make in an hour, but what very many don't see is what that hour cost you. Then there are the other overhead items like insurance and advertising.

MATT
 

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Randy...you have a bad day....just kiddin'.

That was an excellent post. True...what one company needs per hour might be totally different than what the other needs. It all comes down to YOUR cost. Here in the last couple of weeks I have been doing some serious job costing.....carry a pen and paper with me at every job....writing down drive time to job, time spent on edger, trimmer, mower, aerator, overseeder, dethatcher, blower, material used, how many hours can you get on a tank of gas...you get my point. People see what they can make in an hour, but what very many don't see is what that hour cost you. Then there are the other overhead items like insurance and advertising.

It actually very rewarding knowing what you cost are and knowing EXACTLY what you profit and profit margin is. This is just not cutting grass....you have to treat this as a business and any other business.

MATT
 

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I probably should have put in my post that I wasn't singling out fraz001. I didn't mean to attack you personally by any means. Sorry if you take it that way. In short, I'm saying you need to find out by other means as to how to price. Your own special and specific situation will have everything to do with what your operational costs are and your level of comfort for living may be. This will be critical to success. Also, they are always changing and it's a never ending task. Good luck with your endeavor.


Actually walker-talker, today was great! Thanks. :) Sometimes I can be a little more harsh than other times.
 

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Great post Randy. I'm glad someone finally came out and spoke the truth. I've read a couple of posts similar to yours' over the last 6 months, but 99% are sugar coated. This is the second time I've owned my own lawn service, but did it right this time. The paper shuffel is by far the hardest part of making a company work. I was lucky enough to be able to cut my living costs down to bare bones and have enough finances set aside to get started without going into a huge hole. Over the course of the season my costs have constantly changed, and if someone can't keep track and compensate for those changes they'll be out of business in no time. All-in-all, you need to know what you need to make to keep your business going. Nobody can do that for you, and like Randy said, "the most important thing anyone can do is learn the numbers end of the business". With that said "Good luck", and never stop learning.
 
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