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Hydro-Gear ZT-3400 vs separate pumps and wheel motors

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by InjuinRed, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,359

    I highly doubt the ZTR industry uses so called junk in this billion dollar industry. From the 1000s of hours put on these systems the hydros are the most reliable parts on the machine. Ask the techs what percentage of repairs they make are hydro related.
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  2. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,527

    From a rebuilder who rebuilds systems all day he called it disposable junk. It works for me but I have heard that from a few hydraulic sources not just one.

    They actually say the quality on alot of this stuff is going down, cheaper metals and so forth.

    Most of the systems they rebuild have hydraulics that cost way and I mean way more than ZTR's. When you have a hydraulic system where the parts cost 10's of thousands then it makes much more sense to rebuild at 60% cost of new. He was just making the point that the ZTR stuff was not worth their time and said a Hustler HD in minimum they would bother with.

    It has real pumps and a hot shuttle.
  3. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
    Messages: 17,644

    The people who built the space shuttle would probably say the guy who told you that worked on junk, just like guys who work on commercial Z's would probably say home owner grade Z's have junk hydro's in them. It's just a matter of perspective (and ego). There's nothing low grade or throw away about today's commercial grade transmissions.
  4. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,359

    I'm sure they could put higher quality parts in if they wanted, but then that would drive the price even higher. My big gripe with many mechanical items these days is their lack of rebuildability and parts availability. Before pumps were made with sleeveable cylinders and were designed to come apart for service. Now they want you to replace the whole unit period. Air compressors, pressure washers, hand tools, everything is built to be disposable after a seemingly very short time. I love my dads old tools that I can still pull apart and fix. Even simple things like drills, ratchets and spray guns. Luckily he has drawers and boxes of spare parts.
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  5. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That was the point he made, they were meant to be disposable so he calls then junk.
  6. PounderDMI

    PounderDMI LawnSite Member
    Messages: 1

    I thought the gentleman was talking about the separate pumps vs the Hydrogear ZT 3400 specifically. Now everyone is talking about sytems that are totally out of that price range .... and not even in the same mower class :) I'm also interested in opinions about his question.
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