Hydroseeding Information

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by CutnClean, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. CutnClean

    CutnClean LawnSite Member
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    We've been in the landscape business for 15 years. We do mostly maintenance & some landscape work. The last landscape job we did was 16 acres for soccer fields. We subbed out the hydroseeding. We decided to buy our own, Bowie 1500 gallon. Just got a call from a fiberoptic company. They have about 10,000 linear feet, 5' to 10' wide. Any suggestions on price, technique, materials..? I'm meeting with the guy tomorrow - it will probably be hose work.
  2. Turboguy

    Turboguy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I have done a lot of jobs like that. Not for fiber optic cable but more for pipelines where they have put new sewage in and for paving companies that have blacktopped a road and I had to do a few miles along the sides of the road a bit narrower than what you are doing.

    Basically you are going to need one person driving and one either walking behind with a hose or spraying from the tower. I have done some of mine alone and it is not too bad.

    Without knowing what part of California you are in I would say go with a 70-30 mulch or 100% wood since it won't get watered. I use 100% paper but you are likely hotter and drier than I am here. Price wise you are looking at more time than a big open area would take. I would probably be looking for 12 cents a foot and more if I could get it. If that seems too high you can still make decent money in the 8-10 cent a foot range but I would not go lower with that layout.
  3. CutnClean

    CutnClean LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the info. I read it first thing in the morning & it gave me the confidence I needed for the meeting. We got the job, now just putting the estimate together (getting prices on the materials).

    One question I have that I have not been able to locate an answer to is, "What is the ratio of water to materials (mulch, seed, fertilizer, tacktifier) to put in the tank & what area coverage will that give me?" I have a Bowie 1500.

    We're in Southern California.

    Thanks for the help!
  4. Turboguy

    Turboguy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I have never run a Bowie machine but I will transpose some numbers and try to help. If I were doing it I would probably go about 600 pounds of mulch per load and try to cover 13,000 sq. ft. per load. I could tell you more about seed if I knew what kind of seed you were going to be using.

    Fertilzer, oh, since it won't get any follow up care I would likely go with a 19-19-19 maybe 100 pounds per load. Doing residential I prefer a high phosphorus starter fertilizer but for that application I think the tripple 19 might be best.

    Be sure to use a tackifer. If you have a PAM tackifer I would go with just under a pound per load.

    I am sending you a pm that may have a good suggestion for you.
  5. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Call the Bowie guys, they sell all of that stuff and will tell you exactly what you need for a job like that
  6. CutnClean

    CutnClean LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for all your help. We greatly appreciate it.

  7. CutnClean

    CutnClean LawnSite Member
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    We put the estimate together with this information:
    - Total square feet
    - Materials Required
    - How many pounds & type of seed
    - How many pounds of Mulch (paper or wood)
    - How many pounds & type of binder
    - How many pounds & type of fertilizer

    Price was based on square footage.

    We put, "All work done to customers satisfaction."

    Is there any other information, contractual terms we should add to our estimates.

    Thanks for any and all help.

  8. Turboguy

    Turboguy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    It seems like you have things pretty well covered. One of the first things I look at in any hydroseeding job is the availabilty of water.

    The last job I did turned into a nightmare for the water. It was a new shopping center and there was one water source which I had to share with the blacktop guys, the high pressure washer guys and the painters. I spent more time waiting for water than filling.

    Good luck with your job.
  9. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,519

    I think 13 sq ft is very low for a 1500 gal unit- I get 11,000 sq ft out of my 750 gal tank putting it on thick.
  10. Turboguy

    Turboguy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Good post Humble, I agree with a lot of what you said.

    My logic in suggesting that coverage was to get to the 2000 # to the acre mark that is recommended for erosion control jobs and jobs that won't be watered and took into account that he is in an area where heat can be an issue. Some guys will go even more mulch than that. It is also possible that his Bowie unit would handle more than 600 pounds per load which would let him increase his coverage.

    I also sent him a pm and suggested he visit the HydroSeeding Association website and he could talk to a lot of guys running Bowies that could give more exacting information than I can.

    I agree on the coverage you mentioned in lots of situations. My coverage per load is the same as yours if I adjust for my machine being a 500 gallon. My temperatures are much milder, a lot of my jobs are residential where the homeowner hopefully will water regularly. I have done jobs similar to what he is doing and did it at the same coverage you get but my area does not get the high temperatures his area will sometimes get.

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