Hypothetical for solo's

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by GSO LAWNEN4CER, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 19,648

    Its like this, I do a leaf job for a customer once a year, done it for 5 years now. It took the home woner literally his weeks vacation to do it. It takes me 2 hours, hes happy to pay me 150$.

    Ive done some odd stuff in the off season for customers by the hour, only because I know the people and really have know idea the job will take.
  2. lawnkingforever

    lawnkingforever LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,280

    Exactly right on one point and wrong another. People do think 40$ an hour is high for leaf clean up work. This why I mainly do leaf cleanups for lawn customers only. Spot on, Larry.

    Emergency room surgeons make alot more than $50 an hour.
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  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    If I was still using a rake for leaves, like when I started, I would not be able to charge $5/hr and still have a reasonable price... Every time I get a larger blower, the price could actually go down a little bit andit could go even faster if I had a sensible way of loading the truck... :)

    The guy that said you're paid for efficiency by use of top notch equipment, not solely by time, has it exactly right...
  4. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
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    hey if you can get that kind of money then more power to you. it's not about being lazy it's about being smart. i don't only work 4hrs a day. i'm not gonna spend more than 4hrs and one job per day. the biggest yard i have is 3 acres and i'm done in 2 1/2 hrs. i don't need anything bigger than that solo.

    around here noone would pay anything near that price or $1800. the biggest paying leaf job i got was $125 here. it took 2 1/2 hrs. that's all people are willing to pay here. most of them just let it go and don't even get leaf cleanup where i live.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2013
  5. Will P.C.

    Will P.C. LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 966

    I don't know any 'facts' about this situation but it could possibly be considered a crime for writing a bad check. Is 400 dollars worth the trouble of fighting it? Probably not. You might try using it as leverage to recoup some of the money. 200 bucks is better than 0.

    Not to be harsh, but common sense should have taken over and given them some type of ball park range before you started. Many people don't have 400 dollars in their checking account for an extraneous expense like leaf cleanup.

    When taking on a new customer and the has the potential to go over 200 dollars, you should give them a heads to see if they even have the money.
  6. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,463

    my hourly rate is $35 per man hour.

    as for handling the situation I would sent a letter snail mail informing them they have 14 days from the date of the letter to send payment or I reserve the right to use lawyers, liens, small claims court or collection agencies to collect any unpaid balances.

    then I would sit back and go about my business.
  7. 94gt331

    94gt331 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,718

    Wow she only thought the bill would be $30 what a dumb b^^^h. Your screwed on that one I think. Sounds like white trash to me. I would have given a estimate to her first. I give estimates to all new customers before a job starts. Normal maint. customers of mine don't even ask me for a price on there cleanups anymore which is nice because they know I'm fair with them every year. And I get cleanups like you on a constant basis in the fall my crew of 3 guys does about 2 big cleanups a day, ton's of leaves around my area. Good luck to you on getting your money, let us know how you make out.
  8. StanWilhite

    StanWilhite LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,397

    Small claims court, you should have a cut and dried case if they didn't ask for an estimate. They also cannot get away with writing you a ck and then stopping payment on it....the judge will frown heavily at that. As long as your pricing is anywhere around reasonable, I think you've got an "open and shut" case.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2013
  9. Roger

    Roger LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,943

    From what we read, it sounds that way. Despite getting a favorable ruling from the "open and shut case," the OP may never get paid. A favorable ruling is only that -- collections is beyond that, outside the judge's ruling. I think that is where the case now resides -- not being able to collect.
  10. Roger

    Roger LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,943

    When they get paid. They may charge much more than $50/hr, but so much of the ER work is for non-payers, the doc may get nothing. Supplying the service is part of the obligation of the hospital.

    ... sorry, not to derail the thread, .... carry on.

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