I haven't felt this dumb in years

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Envy Lawn Service, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    OK, so lastnight Wayne and I were talking about fall equipment, and I said...

    "Ordinarily, I would instead be considering spending money to trade in mowers on newer models for next year. But I don't think I'm interested in doing that this time around because I'm so much more confident in the durability and reliability of the Lesco mowers."

    ........ and right about then was when it dawned on me for the first time......

    "DUH!!!! ONE THING I NEVER THOUGHT OF UNTIL JUST NOW IS THAT LESCO DOESN'T TAKE TRADE-INS. Honestly, I never really thought about that aspect. I guess I might have to consider a "dealer brand" in the future to trade off my old Lesco's. Like trade a Lesco in on a Toro (for example) and buy another new Lesco, and do it in a cycle where I keep one of each, trading a unit one year, and buying new lesco's other years, or something like that.

    Now I guess I have something new to ponder".....

    Some great revelation I'm having here after a couple seasons.
    How friggin "blonde" of me.
    So there... I feel stupid.

    So I've also been having it pretty rough lately with insomnia, and I only slept like an hour and a half lastnight. So tell me.... for those of you that have buying cycles worked out.... can you think of a reasonable rotation cycle I might use.... with the idea in mind that I would want to trade off used lesco's on new mowers of other brands and also continue to buy new Lesco's and cycle them in too......

    Any thoughts would be appreciated as I am too tired to think this through right now, yet I'm alert enough that it's bugging me.... yeah forgive me, I'm a little wiped out...
  2. lawnman_scott

    lawnman_scott LawnSite Fanatic
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    could you not just sell the used mower yourself?
  3. gravedigger5

    gravedigger5 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I don't have a cycle for trading (up) I just keep buying mowers. I have seven lawn mowers, a brush hog and a disk mower. In the past six years I have only sold one mower and that was a wb that I bought used and sold even more used. I did read an article the other day that said your regular gas air cooled motors should last 100hrs per horsepower. IE: a 25 horse motor should be good for 2500 hrs under normal conditions and maintenance. They recommended getting rid of them before 75% was used up. IE: before 1875hrs on a 25 horse motor. Hope that helps, Marc
  4. newz7151

    newz7151 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Tejas
    Messages: 2,419

    If the company that sells the mower won't take them back in trade.. what do you really think a dealer of a real brand is going to give you on one of those mowers? Now, maybe if you are shopping at a CubCadet dealer they will look at the mowers as pretty much a wash.
  5. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yeah, I could sell them off.
    As in go on and buy new again, and sit on the old ones for sale until they go.

    I was just more looking at this as an inconvienence moreso than anything.
    And the used market isn't too good here for buying or selling.
    Not many spend this much on mowers here locally.
    So there is not as much for sale and moving any commercial grade machine can be slow.
  6. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    I get what you mean there. Honestly as I think about it, I've not had much luck with trading in anyways. But I think that's because I was trying to trade out of mowers much less than 75% used up. More like practically new Z's I just wanted rid of for something else. Couldn't get a fair offer on them because they were still worth too much.

    4-5K is about all they'll offer on trade in, and I understand why too. It's because a dealer will have a hard time moving a higher dollar used machine because most people will pass right by a $6,000 cash purchase on a new mower (because they can't afford it) and go finance a new $9,000 mower over 3-5 years.
  7. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    Well, it's not like you put it.

    The difference is that Lesco is a retail chain, not a hometown dealership. So the analogy would be that trying to trade a mower in at Lesco would be like going to Best Buy to try to trade your old computer in on a new one.


    As for how much a hometown dealer might offer for my used Lesco machines... Probably just as much as they would for any other brand similarly equipped in similar condition. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't.
  8. surgeon83

    surgeon83 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 49

    Put your mowers on ebay when you're ready to trade up. People pay ridiculous amounts of money for the biggest crap on there.

    I tried trading in my Lesco to a Ferris dealer once, and they offered me $1500 for an 18 month old 48" hydro 17hp Kawasaki electric start machine with 300 hours that had been washed after each use and garage stored that I just paid $4152 for with tax. Yeah right!

    Seriously though I recommend checking out what people bid on ebay and you'll most likely come out ahead.
  9. Tharrell

    Tharrell LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,967

    Trouble sleeping? Stop worrying, reduce the caffene, get back on the walkbehind.
    You'll sleep pretty good after that.
    Trade ins? Why not just sell it yourself, you'd probably get more for it.
  10. meets1

    meets1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,857

    I run all toro - I have had excellent luck selling my used Z's. They have all been 52 decks and 19 - 25 hp with DFS baggers. My dealer gives me half of what I sell the mower to someone. I think that is a joke but people seem to pay cuz they tell me they don't mind a mower with 1200 hrs on it with the quality of a toro unit - then they write the check! So far everyone has been happy & no break downs on that used mower! You gotta keep wheelen & dealen!

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