I just figured id start a thread for all of us who are happy with our perma greens. They get such a bad wrap on this site so here we go. I have three magnums and we beat the heck out of em and they are still running strong. our 05 has 730 hrs on it, the 06' has 400 and our new 07' has 230hrs on it. all of em run great with minimal problems. Most problems are maintenance related, meaning take care of em and they will take care of you.