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I love the lawn game

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by MDLawn, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,284

    Just got a message back that for a near 1/2 acre lawn that my quote was too high and the competitive quotes were $15-$23!?!?! People have no clue how to make money and would rather scrape by just to have accounts and then do a crap job, at least that is just my opinion. Or they are hurting so bad they need anything to keep going and that sucks too.

    Either I am out of my mind asking what I want (I dont think so) or this industry is collapsing just like the economy. I refuse to lower my prices and I dont care if a crew of guys can do it faster than me. That crew costs money to run. Ah lawns, the total volume game - the more you can get at your cheap price the more you think you can make :hammerhead:. I will stick to part time and only take those at my price. Sorry to say this but it's just frustrating. I love the landscaping aspect of the business but the lawns for now make me the most. I am working on changing this.

    Thanks for reading my rant :dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:
  2. Cummins343

    Cummins343 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 2,468

    Time are tough right now man. People are willing to go to the extremes just to make a buck or two. As far as this industry going down the drain, I would say there's a trend leaning towards that. This job doesn't require any real education requirements, none. Anyone can go out and start a lawn mower and trimmer.
  3. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,284

    Believe me I know a brainless dropout can mow lawns and lay mulch (and the industry is consumed with them) and I am fine with that. I just laugh at all this. Times are tough, I know, but I just will not accept people that don't want my price. I'd rather find another part time line of work (and I do this just to make money not support anything) than lower myself or my prices just to work. Why bother beating my body up for nothing. This is a convenience industry and if someone doesn't want to pay for that convenience of coming home every week to have a nicely manicured lawn and landscape then fine. Choose the cheap guy and maybe he'll do as good of work as me and if he does you got a steal of a deal. If all someone cares about is getting the grass knocked down then please choose the other guy. Around here people are not hurting as bad with their new BMW's and Mercedes in their driveways. I've got enough lawns for this year and any more will be at a price I want. I really enjoy doing this work and making properties look nice but not at the expense of just doing it. Gotta make money. If the trend continues then maybe I'll not being doing this anymore. But my customers are repeat customers and love the work I do. I even get compliments from people just walking by. I pride myself on that. Quality = a higher price. Want it cheap.....you run the risk of bad work. Again I am looking at the customer that wants it nice, not just someone who may be lazy and doesn't want to do the work. I mean a good homeowner rider may cost $1500-2000. A cheap lawn guy at $15 only costs $405. What's the point in buying a lawn tractor or hell even a good push mower when someone else can beat their equipment up. Thats why sooo many non-high end clients have lawn service. Again my opinion only. I want to run a business not just cut grass to make money.
  4. Hawg City Lawns

    Hawg City Lawns LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,070

    theres a guy handing out flyers in my neighborhood $20 any yard and he doesnt do a bad job either most yards are 1/2 to 3/4 acre i cant drop the gate for less than $35 on the 1/2 acre lots but its part of the business theres plenty of yards out there just have to look for them
  5. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,284

    Exactly! Even some of the 1/4-1/3 acre lots with all the fences need to be around $30-35. Trimming takes too much time! Thats why I pick and choose and get the ones that I want that pay what I need. I definitely made early mistakes but most of them have not continued with the price increases and their spots get filled every year anyways. I also understand that the low price guys fill a niche and those customers wouldn't even consider me because of price anyways.
  6. brodo374

    brodo374 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 141

    Seems like every yard has a plastic baggy in the drive offering a price much less than yours...and/or a gimmick such as [third cut free, beat ANY other price by 25%, etc]. Kind makes me sick
  7. lawnworker

    lawnworker LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 897

    This is the worst it has ever been. The trillion dollar bailouts have gutted what was left of America. The elite are having one last bash at our future expense, and us lawn schmucks are a dime a dozen in this new world order economy
  8. clif

    clif LawnSite Member
    Messages: 135

    A cheap lawn guy at $15 only costs $405. What's the point in buying a lawn tractor or hell even a good push mower when someone else can beat their equipment up. Thats why sooo many non-high end clients have lawn service. Again my opinion only. I want to run a business not just cut grass to make money.[/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't stress out too much over the idiot low ballers, they are ignorant as to what overhead means, and obviously don't make any money. I think they just want accounts, no matter what price, and "think" they are doing good. Then, after cutting the yards a couple times, they realize they underbid big time and then the only option for them is to do a quick & crappy job, mow and go - no edging, trimming, cleanup or weed control whatsoever. I gained an account recently because a lowballer kept doing a crappy job. The customer finally accepted the fact that in this business you get what you pay for. I went cut her yard the next day after Mr. lowballer just cut it, and she still paid me my full rate. She was so impressed with the yard after seeing the difference someone that cares about a quality job can do, she stopped me while working to tell me so. I think I'll have that customer for a long time.

    Keep your rates where you make a profit, don't ever lower them, or your standards... you say more about yourself and your business by the quality of work you do than anything else, if you accept a cheapo job to just mow and go, remember, potential customers see that job too. I tell people up front I'm not the cheapest there is, but I'd compare my cuts to anyone's. Just my thoughts on this topic.
  9. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
    Messages: 8,640

    Many people don't know how to run a business. That is just the way it is. They usually find out when the bills come in February and they have no money to pay them. Or the Big Z breaks down and they have no money to fix it. Soon they will be weeded out.
  10. Cummins343

    Cummins343 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 2,468

    Most, if not all of them, don't pay taxes either way for their company so they should be having a lot of $$$.

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