I spent all night working on a problem I had with QuickBooks Pro. I finally got it all figured out after many, many hours. This really isn't my problem though. I just wanted to let you all know I am wired in-case I don't make any sense. I come to lawnsite after taking a break for a couple of days and all of the sudden I am reading about Lowballers in every other thread (I know it has always been bad, but not this bad) and How we should all want to be like Wal-Mart and how a Pizza coupon should be compared to how we charge our customers. So I thought I would say a few words about each. LowBalling: When someone intentionally under prices the other guy. This is when you either know the price before hand and come in lower and nothing but the other guys price is what you based your price on. Or, you went to a potential customer and said you would do it for X amount lower then what they are paying now. Again not taking into account any cost or what you regular charge or anything. It is not because somebody might have a lower price. Wal-Mart: Is a retail store and in no way sells service. Apples and Oranges and should never be compared to lawn care. They are bad for america and we should all boycott them. Besides Kmart and Sears are merging and I can't wait until I can go to Kmart and buy a Kenmore Washer and dryer Pizza coupons: Wow, This one seems odd to me. To think that if you use a pizza coupon you are contributing to lowballers. Oh forget it, I'm not even going to comment further on this one. I think we can all agree that retails store lowball to get business. Most will even come right out and say we will beat any advertised price by x amount. But what does that have to do with a service oriented business like lawn care? Don't you think it would be better to compare lawn care to plumbing and other service oriented business's? When was the last time a plumber came to your door and said they will beat anyones price? Just my pennies worth.