I was in an upscale neighborhood, in my unlettered truck, he was spraying weed control w/ the irrigation system. H?e comes over and I was talking to him , he thought i lived in the hood, I ask boy they got you working spraying weeds w/ the irrigation on huh? his reply was oh yeah it works great when it s wet. Oh yeah it doesnt wash off huh? Nope. So i ask about their organic propgram, just chicken or turkey and thats it, he says they dont do much of it. Then I proceed to find out they do theri first two apps liquid cause its cheaper, and thenn the rest are granular. They get 1.5 times the rate for grub control. Does this sound about right w/ what they do near you?