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I Was Told Hustler Is Testing 34 Hp Kawie

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by REALSLOW, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. gene gls

    gene gls LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,213

    Well said.....There is room for improvement.
  2. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    John Deere used to use that engine on their GX355D lawn tractors.
    Dixon is using them now too I think.

    From what little I've heard it's a good engine.
    But of course it's no 3 cylinder Kubota or anything...
  3. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087


    It sounds like you want a Lesco Ztwo/Cub Tank.
    It has most of what you are looking for I think.

    I think if you added a 12v plug and a jack you'd be happy.
  4. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,168

    I like the mud flap idea I sometimes have as many as 3 to 4 hundred Canadian geese on and around my lake and have had goose crap thrown all over me including my face. I personally believe it would have to drive the blades with something besides a belt because if the engine want kill back something has got to give and it would be the belt that would be the weak point. Envy do you think a belt drive could hold a 36 efi or would it smoke them in heavy wet grass? The new bigger gas caps on this new Hustler are fine no problems at all you would be pleased with them.
  5. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    Oh yeah... it can be ran with a belt NO PROBLEM.
    But not with any Micky Mouse belt and belt routing setup.

    I'm not trying to be negative towards Hustler at all, believe me, but I really doubt their current routing is going to cut it though. Like I said though, I'm not posting to be negative. So just let me know and I can give you some specifics to look at on your machine's belt routing so you can judge what I'm saying for yourself.
  6. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,168

    Would a drive shaft be better or worse, if you were trying to put that much power to the blades what would you suggest. I am thinking like you I believe it would melt the belt configuration they have now.
  7. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,943

    I understand some of your wishes. Others just don't intrest me, and some would prevent me from buying one.

    26x12-12 rear tires and 15" fronts would really improve a lot of things. One being it seems that this mower is designed to mow LOW cut heights. At full transport height, my PTO belt rubs the hydro belt. This would also solve clearance problems, and wheelie bar interferance. Smooth front casters would be GREAT!

    This would allow the use of larger wheel motors and still have almost 15mph. May make things seem more powerfull, and will definately give a better smoother ride.

    Hydro cooler has been fine. Though, from feeling the heat it produces, maybe a bigger one would be better? Havn't had any clogging issues.

    I just lost an anti-scalp wheel today. Ran over it. Bolt sheared at the nut. If they made them like eXmark does, this and them bending wouldn't be a problem.

    The Yanmar V-2 diesel is a POS. I doubt we'll be seeing a higher hp v-twin diesel anytime soon.

    Deck wise....I'd prefer the old one at this point. Not much good for my conditions.

    Tie downs...I dont chain it down, I use a strap. May eventually go with a Pro-Locker.

    Just say NO to ROPS....please! :hammerhead:
  8. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,943

    Belts would work just fine. Shafts get loose, and are at least 3 extra grease fittings to service, and when the slip spline gets loose, they can do a lot of damage.

    For higher hp, they would need more belt wrap and larger diameter pulleys all around. DC's fan cooled spindles are a good idea. They would have to go with a more robust belt as well.

    As far as hydro driven decks....for small ZTR's, it would be a LOT of extra things to go wrong. Not to mention the coolers and extra weight of the fluid and it's resivoir.

    But first, they need a deck that can cut good.
  9. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    Me.... I like the vertical shaft engine setup for gas engines.
    So I like belts for that... and it would be hard to shaft drive that configuration.

    Shafts do make sense on horizontal powered mowers though.
    But for gas, I still like the vertical shaft and belts.
    Simplier, lighter and cheaper to keep up with.
    Plus it's not really like you can avoid the belts completely anyways without major expense.

    I am almost certain that kind of power would slip belts on that fast of a mower with that much power to the blades and Hustler's current routing. SPECIFICALLY it would smoke them on the center spindle. To see what I'm saying, all you need to do is take a look at the lack of 'belt wrap' on that pulley. I think it would slip right there pretty easily when worked hard.

    The belt routing could be upgraded to handle it quite easily though.
  10. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
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    The 60" is the only XR-7 deck to have an idler pulley on both sides of the center spindle pulley. The 54, 66, 72 only have one between the trim side and center.

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