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Im doing a Bid Am I crazy on the pricing

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by mtnzone, May 23, 2008.

  1. mtnzone

    mtnzone LawnSite Member
    Messages: 201

    I have an "In" at this Business Center and they are not pleased with current landscaper, and snowplowing. So they have approached me with their mulching needs as well as flower beds, with the understanding that I will take over contract at the end of fall for plowing and lawn maintenance for next year as they have a current contract with unsatisfactory landscaper.

    They have two other proposal from other companies but say it is mine if I want it.

    This is the insane part.

    One company told them that the property needs 5 yards of mulch at $150.00 and $40 and hour labor Based on 10 hours of spreading.... lol.. Ten hours for five yards you got to be kidding me!! But that is not what is perplexing me.

    The other company gave them a quote of of $160 of mulch which in our area means the property needs 5 yards.. and $741 of labor based on $35 an hour?? that equals to 20 hours!! you got to be kidding me.....20 hours?? for 5 yards

    well I go through the walkt hrough and immediately tell this person without measuring that this area needs 15 to 20 yards of mulch at a width 3" depth.... they look at me like i have two heads!! they tell me the other companies quoted 5.. Now I'm rubbing my eyes thinking I have been hit over the head and my eyesight is wrong... but after checking again I was sure I was right.

    so here is my measurements of the mulching areas. You tell me.

    2 beds 8'x8'
    1 bed 158'x6'
    2 beds 24'x8'
    2 beds 44'x8

    I come out with 18 to 20 yards. 15 yards if I skimp......and three guys 4 hours to spread as we can back the trucks right to each bed...

    So it seems to me that the both companies are inflating (obviously) their wages to offset their low estimate of mulch needed...... with the top one still a bit low...

    What do you think? And if so what should I do?

    Should I do the same or call these other guys out?
  2. TNT LawnCare Inc.

    TNT LawnCare Inc. LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,157

    What there doing or will do is fluff up the old mulch or turn it over,then lightly handspread a thin top layer and charge out the wazoo...:rolleyes: Just my thaughts .
  3. mtnzone

    mtnzone LawnSite Member
    Messages: 201

    Thank TNT.. i thought that too but if they try to do that they will ge a rude awakening, as they obviously didnt look at the beds. their is two layers of different colored mulch. very contrasting different color.. top layer is Black/Dark mulch three years old and thinly spread in most areas.. one area it would be 2 inches deep and others 1/2 inch... the lower layer is what we like to call "walmart colored" Mulch.. So if they try to fluff it or turn it they are screwed..

  4. JNyz

    JNyz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,087

    I have seen some companies go low on the mulching since they have such a high number for the maintenance [mowing]. I think you have to look at it as an overall maintenance contract mulching, mowing, whatever else is included and look at the snow as separate. If it works out that you are getting your hourly rate at the end of each day, I think it would be a good deal.
  5. mtnzone

    mtnzone LawnSite Member
    Messages: 201

    Yeah i understand that but the bids they got were not for total contract but only for mulch...


    J.A.G LAWNCARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 931

    to many new people in business that dont know what the hell is going on........
  7. JNyz

    JNyz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,087

    Then it looks like they are just trying to get a foot in the door. Remember three inches is a lot of mulch. Most of my properties are mulched every year and we never put down more then two. Fifteen yards of mulch is a 1500 dollar mulch job.
  8. PerfectEarth

    PerfectEarth LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,734

    At 2 inches of mulch (three is WAY too much IMO), less plant material (and I don't know what that looks like) for that area- you're at about 9 yards.... You are way too high on your estimate for mulch needs.
  9. JNyz

    JNyz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,087

    That sounds about right.
  10. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    I can't tell for sure without looking at it, I have to see it, but based
    PURELY on square footage, I would probably do that for $300-340, total.
    Fade resistant guaranteed, edged, and treated for weeds.

    Unfortunately I can not commit myself as to
    doing the job without first taking a look.


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