Imprelis Discussion - it's damage, Dupont's Claim Process, Lawsuits filed, Experience

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by Starbuy, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. cindyb

    cindyb LawnSite Senior Member
    from KY
    Messages: 354

    Anybody else losing Bradford Pear? Turning yellow and leaves are odd.

  2. Starbuy

    Starbuy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    Another warning for DD (DuPont stock) investors as more press write about the growing impact Imprelis lawsuits may have on future quarterly statements:

    "5 Companies At The Greatest Risk From European Woes"

    "...Dupont is sure to benefit from the continued growth in emerging nations, Myanmar being a great example, but I fear the impact of lawsuits arising from Dupont’s failed Imprelis herbicide will strip large chunks of earnings from the income statement." -Maxwell Fisher

    Investors should keep an eye on whether DuPont's attorneys are quickly able to settle many of these lawsuits before they go to trial.

    Meanwhile, further Imprelis destruction is being reported while the migration is continuing. Many of us had hoped by now we'd see improvement and signs that it isn't moving further and hindering growth on plants further away from the original application site. The arborist who recently documented my damage comfirmed he's still seeing it migrate hundreds of feet away and still doing damage. He told me it is now where my 50' maples' roots are so I have to watch closely for the next year to see if growth is stunted or deformed in the future. If I lose those then my entire back yard would get dug up, my koi pond removed in process and it would take many many years to try to get back what I have. I hope this toxin stops.

    Now, another neighbor's 70' tall poplars are dead (downslope from the golf trail in our back which has water runoff heading right for his trees / golf course did not use Imprelis). Neither side of him used Imprelis, but due to the water runoff this year and last down the back of my neighbor's property it then washes down a concrete golf cart path and ends up soaking into that neighbor's property. This is about 50 yards away from original application site. He didn't know what killed them, but now word has gotten to him about Imprelis.
  3. cindyb

    cindyb LawnSite Senior Member
    from KY
    Messages: 354

    Bark is coming off my Willow Oaks, dropping branches with leaves. I should be enjoying my garden and berries, watering didn't help. Berries are dying and tomatoes leaves are curling and itty bitty tomatoes are deformed.
  4. Starbuy

    Starbuy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    Imprelis Update: 2012 Field Notes on Injury and Recovery - Purdue Plant & Pest Diagnostic Laboratory
    Aaron Patton, PhD,
    Department of Agronomy
    Tom Creswell, PhD and
    Gail Ruhl, MS,
    Department of Botany and
    Plant Pathology
    Steve Weller, PhD,
    Department of Horticulture &
    Landscape Architecture

    Here is the link to the important pdf:

    I'm sorry if someone already posted this, but here it is in case you didn't read it.

    Photos reveal conditions have worsened for many trees, with no recovery in 2012 as many of us had hoped.

    This publication addresses some of the many questions being asked aboutImprelis in 2012, including: did trees
    recover from Imprelis® injury, are new symptoms being discovered, and how should you care for or replace injured

    Did Trees Recover from Imprelis Injury?
    In the locations that Purdue and OISC specialists visited, most of the trees that were identified and confirmed as damaged by Imprelis® in 2011 declined in health throughout the 2011 growing season — and they are not recovering in 2012. Some trees exhibit symptoms exactly like they did the previous year. They appear frozen in time, and no new growth has occurred. Some trees show signs of new growth from axillary buds but not from terminal/apical buds. In many cases, despite some recovery, trees are too damaged, so removing them is still recommended.

    In spring 2012, OISC visited more than two dozen random properties that had trees damaged by Imprelis® in 2011. At each site they sampled leaf tissues and soil samples and collected visual observations and photos of damaged trees. Their 2012 sampling has confirmed that Imprelis® herbicide is still detectable in tree branch tips of both dead trees and plant leaf tissues of damaged trees. It also is detectable in the top 6 inches of soil at levels generally less than 2 parts per billion. A summary of this data is available at
    It is unclear whether the levels in the soil are high enough to cause new damage or if the herbicide injury observed in plants in 2012 was from herbicide uptake in 2011. OISC will continue to monitor properties and provide updates as needed.

    How and When Should I Replace DamagedTrees?
    Based on soil testing and the continued presence of Imprelis® in treated lawn soils, For 2012, Purdue specialists do not recommend planting new trees in the same area where a damaged tree was removed — unless the entire tree is removed (shoots, roots, bark, leaves, etc.) and several cubic feet of soil surrounding the tree are also removed. Soil removal will be necessary to protect newly planted trees from being exposed to the herbicide.

    -Purdue University, Purdue Plant & Pest Diagnostic Laboratory 7/09/2012
  5. cindyb

    cindyb LawnSite Senior Member
    from KY
    Messages: 354

    Tomorrow is the 1st day of August and still no compensation offer to replace/repair the damage.

    Still no word of how long it stays in the soil?
  6. Starbuy

    Starbuy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    Here's Purdue University's answer:
    What Do We Know Now that We Didn’t Then?
    We know much more in 2012 about Imprelis® than we did in 2011, but there is still much more that we don’t know — like exactly how long this herbicide will persist in the soil and why some tree and shrub species were affected so quickly and others are just now showing symptoms. Current research at Purdue and other universities around the country are trying to answer the many questions people still have. We will keep you informed as we learn more.

    What Is Taking DuPont So Long?
    Many people have been asking this question. Turf professionals are getting pressure from their clients and, in some cases, their insurance companies. Unfortunately, we are not sure why the claims process is taking so long for so many people..."
  7. jconley

    jconley LawnSite Member
    Messages: 15

    So my LCO (Weed Man) finally contacts me by phone today and informs me they are not the Weed Man that applied Imprelis to my yard last year, they are a different Weed Man. This was news to me, furthermore they do not know anything about any claims against Dupont. She said they have never used Imprelis and gave me a web address for Weed Man out of Canada. Somehow I doubt this was done for my benefit.
  8. cindyb

    cindyb LawnSite Senior Member
    from KY
    Messages: 354

    Got your invoices and checks?
  9. jconley

    jconley LawnSite Member
    Messages: 15

    Yes, I have all my records and the other Weedman came out in November and did my site survey. I have the paperwork from DuPont also. There was never a disruption of service and I never contracted with this new company. I am guessing these are franchises, but I have to wonder what is going on.
  10. jconley

    jconley LawnSite Member
    Messages: 15

    The person from Weedman that I had been dealing with seemed to be a nice guy caught up in a bad situation, and I know he was getting it from all sides. Having said that, I don't have a good feeling about being told by Weedman, new or old that they have no information about any Imprelis claims.

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