(further on this subject) Most of my lawns are 12 - 20 M sq. ft, a few are 3/4 acre. I have demoed the Wright Stander and Toro 52" ZTR Rider. I decided that what I have can't be beat for these lawns: 52" Bunton hydro, 18 hp Vanguard, double blades and Proslide. 1.) My properties have a lot of trees with widely overhanging, low branches. Step off the slide, stoop low and get that deck way out in front of me. No trim. 2.) Machine weighs only 550 lbs, easy to control my turns, especially with these stressed lawns. 3.) Go carefully around obstacles, trimming is minimal and quick. (can stick that out-front deck into tightest places) 4.) Put larger tires on the Bunton, top speeed is now about 6 mph. Even on my larger lawns, thats about as fast as would be practical. 5.) Its paid for. A good WB is not a dying breed. Any supporters?