In Need of Help for Large Contract Pricing Estimate

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by homefixitman, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. homefixitman

    homefixitman LawnSite Member
    Messages: 4

    Well after years of small stuff, Im looking at moving to larger contract jobs, but am having trouble getting anything close to accurate pricing/time/cost guides (no I haven't spent big money on landscape maintenance software as yet - need my first contract first).

    Any Help is appreciated -

    Essentially heres the type of isses Im trying to price out

    Regular Mowing 375 Acres - 41 times per year (30 growing season, 11 off season)
    Lawn edging 159,000 linear feet - 41 times per year
    Fertilize - 375 acres - 2 times per year
    Semi-improved grounds mowing - 549 acres -25 times per year
    semi-improved area edging - 300,000 linear feet - 11 times per year
    emergency job orders - 300 labor hours - 4 times a year

    Thats just part of it, pest control and specialty stuff (mangrove tree trimming) have to have licensed pros for that so getting estimates from them.

    Im guessing right now $55 per man hour, and for mowing 45 min per acre and 1/2 foot per second for edging (1800 feet per hour).

    Other things Im not so sure of is how long per bush from shrub trimming and tree pruning (about 2,000 trees and shrubs - once a year average)

    Am I in the ball park as I will have health care and 401k costs (taxes etc) to build in for the employees also.

  2. The Grounds Crew

    The Grounds Crew LawnSite Member
    Messages: 146

    WOW! That is all I have to say. I definitly canno't help you with this one though. But my advice for you is to just break it down like any other normal job. Be sure to keep us updated as to if you get the job or not and what the bid comes out to be. Good luck man. Do you have a bid price in mind? If so, what is it at?
  3. grandview (2006)

    grandview (2006) LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,465

    I think your way out of your league on this one. What you want for this job I'll bet who ever is doing will be half the price you will come up with.
  4. The Grounds Crew

    The Grounds Crew LawnSite Member
    Messages: 146

    Grandview how do you come to that conclusion?
  5. grandview (2006)

    grandview (2006) LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,465

    Fact is,this is his first bid. Just in edging that's 30 miles a week. You know how big that acre is?
    Here a pix of 190 acres

  6. Duekster

    Duekster LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 7,961

    Likely because your production rate is so low for such a large area. Bigger mowers....
  7. bjack312

    bjack312 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 0

    Something to consider is what kind of equipment you are going to have to purchase to do this job. Is the mowing mostly big open areas where you could use a WAM or 72" ZTR's? If so, you are more than likely going to be more productive than 1 acre/45 minutes. If it's a bunch of smaller pieces, what would be the most productive mix of equipment, given your crew size.

    Mowing semi-improved grounds, is this something that can be done with the same equipment, or are you going to need say a tractor and brushog?

    Just remember that you will likely have to make a significant investment in equipment, and this cost will need to be recovered in your bid.
  8. The Grounds Crew

    The Grounds Crew LawnSite Member
    Messages: 146

    Grandview that doesn't show me much. I know what 365 acres looks like but thanks for showing me what 195 looks like. Who knows he might have the man power, and equipment or is at least willing to invest in equipment.
  9. grandview (2006)

    grandview (2006) LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,465

    That's why i said the other bid is going to be much lower then anything he'll be able to come up with. Other company may have the equipment already and I am assuming this guy will have to buy it.
  10. The Grounds Crew

    The Grounds Crew LawnSite Member
    Messages: 146

    Grandview that is exactly my point. Who knows if he has the equipment and who knows if he budgeted to buy larger equipment. The key word here is "assume". Don't ever assume things. He is asking for help on bidding not whether he can handle the job or not.

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