In need of new 21 walk behind

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by johnhenry, Jul 29, 2001.

  1. johnhenry

    johnhenry LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 488

    I'm in need of a 21 inch walk behind .My old snapper finally gave in. I did some searching on this subject but hoping for some new insight.It seem like alot of threads went for lawn boy but since toro has them now have they changed them my other choices in my area besides a toro or lawnboy would be a Honda which I have heard some great reviews on. And a white.My local dealer carries the white Anyone know anything about them.I check out the new snappers today but they are really looking cheap.And walmart carries them now also so enough said about the future of snapper.Any insight on this would be very helpful.
  2. Sammy

    Sammy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,734

    I bought the Honda this year. Starts on firdt pull even when it has been rained on.
  3. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    I've got a Toro residential 21". I really don't see much difference between cutting capability between it and its commercial counterparts. I would recommend Honda as well. I would definately buy a Honda next time if I new exactly for sure that it mulched as well as my Toro. The controls, handling, and hydro system on the commercial Honda (loaded model) are far superior to Toro, therefore making it my choice. Now to find out if it mulches worth a darn. Good luck with the search. I highly suggest either of these brands. Both will give you years of service with proper care. Later.
  4. vipermanz

    vipermanz LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,773

    my lb runs in tha rain!!!!!

    lawnboy alllllll theeeeeeee wayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!:blob3:
  5. Brieldo

    Brieldo LawnSite Member
    Messages: 192

    Perhaps the best 21" I've seen is the John Deere JX85. John Deere took the deck from its high end 21"s and added unique commercial duty parts everywhere else. For instance, the differential for the self-propel system is made my Kanzaki and is 75% stronger than the residential model. The wheels are aluminum with rubber tires. The height adjusters on the side of the deck are steel with metal holes in them instead of just using the u-shaped holes that are part of the deck/discharge area. Standard Oil filter, dual air filtration, 6hp Kawi engine which performs flawlessly. I'd definely take a look at one. Also, it has 5 speed transaxle which allows for many options when mowing...I keep it in 4 or 5 and it doesnt miss a beat=) Just my $.02
  6. TheLawnBoy

    TheLawnBoy LawnSite Member
    Messages: 13

    I bought a Honda 2 years ago and it has been great. The model is HRB215 i think. It has that Xenoy deck. There has only been one repair done by the shop and that was just after we got it. I think i took off the air filter and some dirt got in the carburater and it wouldn't run. They said they soaked the carbuater overnight in solvent or something put it back together in the morning and it went fine. Since gas repairs weren't covered by the warranty they charged us 30 bucks. There was also a little routine maintenance that we did this year. Just readjust the cables and flywheel brake. It doesn't have the self propelled option i didn't spring for that but since most of our lawns are fairly small it doesn't seem necessary. I did buy the mulch kit this year and it seems to work very well. It takes moderately thick grass before you can see some left in cakes along the wheel track. I am thinking about buying another at the end of the season so i guess that is as good a recommendation as any.

  7. Kent Lawns

    Kent Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 870

    I still like the Craftsman.

    We do equipment cost studies and found them the cheapest to own/operate.

    I used to run the $1000 21" (Including Toro, JD, Kubota & LawnBoy) and just haven't found them cost-effective as the Craftsman.

    ~Disclaimer: I did not operate the equipment myself, nor do we run them 40hrs./week. Those differences will make your suitability different than mine.
  8. script

    script LawnSite Member
    Messages: 115

    Scag48 I ran the com. Honda and I still run the Toro, and as far as the mulching, the Toro is by far a better mulcher . Just in my opinion the better mulcher would be the Toro with pretty good bagging capabilities also. The Honda is a great mower that mulches better than the Snapper but not close to the Toro, but has better bagging capabilities than the Toro. And the Snapper bags better than both but as far as mulching it comes in last. The Toro and the Honda are both 3 years old, the Snapper 2 years old, and all three are commercial 21's. I guess the type of grass that you cut may make a difference, but I cut mostly St. Aug and Centipede. So in my opinion I like the Toro. Hope this helps a little.

  9. Eric ELM

    Eric ELM Husband, Father, Friend, Angel
    Messages: 4,830

    Kent Lawns

    Please add your location in your profile or email me with what state you live in so I can add it. It is now manditory for new members to put in their location before becoming a member, so you need to add yours also.

  10. LeoS818

    LeoS818 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 122

    We"ve had toros,snappers, lawnboys. But i agree the best ones we"ve had are the DJ JX 75s. Just like the JX 85 but with plastic wheels. We had the oll filter kit added for about $40.

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