Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by Schlepie, Jan 25, 2003.

  1. leadarrows

    leadarrows LawnSite Senior Member
    from N/A
    Messages: 925

    I have Kiplinger's Small Business Attorney.
    This is what they have to say.
    My accountant advised me to incorporate and it has worked out for me. Hope this helps.

    Limited Liability Companies

    Every state has enacted laws permitting the formation of a limited liability company ("LLC") as an alternative to traditional corporations, general partnerships and limited partnerships. LLCs have become popular
    because they offer the flexibility in management and other matters like a general partnership, while providing the benefit of limited liability for the investing members, like a corporation.

    Unlike limited partnerships, LLC's protect all of the owners and all of them may participate in management. Unlike S corporations, LLC's do not restrict the number or type of owners. For these reasons, the LLC is
    sometimes preferred to these other popular entities used by small businesses.

    Basic Requirements
    Limited liability companies are formed and established much like a corporation. The founders must prepare and file the proper documents with the state, according to the state's limited liability company law.
    These laws normally provide that the LLC may have powers like a corporation. However some states restrict LLCs from certain activities, such as banking, insurance and professional services. LLC's have
    members, similar to a corporation's shareholders. These members must have a written agreement, much like a partnership agreement.

    Unfortunately, the average cost to establish an LLC is much higher than the cost of simple incorporation. LLC documents are not standardized, and it is important to have a qualified attorney help establish an
    LLC. While the cost to set up a corporation can be as little as $100 plus filing fees, an LLC usually costs a minimum of $1500 plus filing fees, and is often much higher.

    The IRS has determined that an LLC meeting certain requirements may be taxed as a "pass through" entity like a partnership or S corporation. This means that the LLC's profits and losses flow through to the LLC
    members. Many of the restrictions placed on S corporations, such as limits as to the number of shareholders, do not exist for an LLC.

    LLCs also differ from regular corporations in other ways. LLC laws do not permit the LLC to have unlimited life. Most laws prohibit LLC's to a life not to exceed thirty years. Also, LLC members are subject to
    different rules with respect to transferring their membership interests, and withdrawing and distributing profits, as compared to a regular corporation's shareholders. One of the drawbacks to LLC's is the
    uncertainty of doing business outside the state when the LLC is formed. Because not all states have identical LLC laws, you may have difficulty qualifying your LLC in a "foreign" state. If not properly qualified, that
    state law may permit claimants to "pierce the corporate veil", thereby making individual members liable for LLC debts. This loss of limited liability protection poses a substantial risk.

    Consult with your attorney to determine if an LLC may be appropriate for a given business enterprise.

    For related information see:

    S Corporations

    An "S corporation" is a closely held corporation that has elected to be taxed under Subchapter S of the Internal Revenue Code, instead of the rules of Subchapter C that generally govern taxation of corporations.
    S corporation election does not modify any of the laws and rules concerning liabilities or legal obligations of corporate directors, officers or shareholders. Other than the way in which S corporations and their
    shareholders are taxed, S corporations are subject to all of the issues and obligations, and have all the benefits and rights of, any other corporation.

    Avoid Double Taxation
    A corporation is considered to be a tax paying entity separate from its shareholders. Most corporations are taxed as C corporations. A C corporation must file returns and pay taxes on its income. When the
    corporation distributes some of its income to shareholders as dividends, the shareholders must pay income tax on the dividends. The income the shareholders receive is therefore taxed twice, once at the
    corporate level when the corporation receives it, and again at the shareholder level when the shareholders receive it. This "double taxation" is one of the drawbacks to C corporation status.

    On the other hand, S corporations are treated differently. They avoid "double taxation." If an eligible corporation and its shareholders elect to be taxed as an S corporation, the corporation is treated as "pass
    through" entity (very much like a partnership). All corporate income is "passed through" to the shareholders. The S corporation does not pay a corporate income tax. The income is taxed only at the shareholder
    level. Likewise, all losses, deductions and credits are passed through to the shareholders and must be included on the shareholders' tax returns in the same form that those items are received, paid or incurred
    by the corporation.

    Qualifying as an S Corporation
    To qualify as an S corporation, the corporation must be a "small business corporation" as defined in the Internal Revenue Code. To qualify as a small business corporation, there may be no more than 35
    shareholders, there may be only one class of stock, and the corporation and the shareholders must properly and timely file an election with the Internal Revenue Service and meet other requirements.

    While the benefits of S corporation status are in many cases significant, to receive those benefits the corporation and the shareholders must comply with the Internal Revenue Code and related regulations, and
    keep and maintain appropriate books and records. Also, S corporation status may be beneficial to some shareholders but not all. Before making an S corporation election, consult with an attorney or
    accountant well versed in the S corporation requirements and benefits. Other business forms, in particular a limited partnership or a limited liability company, may provide comparable tax benefits without some
    of the disadvantages of a limited liability company.
  2. leadarrows

    leadarrows LawnSite Senior Member
    from N/A
    Messages: 925

    Almost forgot.I used the form that is in Kiplinger's and sent it in to the state with the necessary filing fees and thats all it took for me. Cost about 100.00 to file. Kiplinger's cost about 30.00 I think.
  3. LawnsRUsInc.

    LawnsRUsInc. LawnSite Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 916

    I am a s corporation, I think it is the best way to go (being incorporated). More paper work than just working for cash of course. I first talked with many company owners and my lawyer and that was the best way ( s corp) they thought that i should start my carrer off in the business world. But you will still need to have insurance. With a s corp they reallly cant go after the share holder, which is you. a good site to check on companys is It helped me.

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