gravel rat, do you type just so you can read your own posts? I am not one to flame, but man some of the posts you put here are just too much. a JAKE brake plowing snow. Man you must have never driven a truck with a jake in the snow. this is the worst thing in the world, lets see 33k truck on slick road lets apply a uncontrolled amount of braking to the drive wheels only. in slick conditions this will lock up the back tires and present a real problem. maybe you should stick to the junk business after all.