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Is ecs on exmark worth an extra $200

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Benchmark, Apr 7, 2005.

  1. Benchmark

    Benchmark LawnSite Member
    Messages: 21

    I can get a toro 32" wb with t-bar for $2299, or I can get an exmark 32" wb with ecs controls for $2499. Is the emark worth it? Will I get more control with ecs (sharper turns, more manuverability etc.)
  2. Appalachian landscape

    Appalachian landscape LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 453

    I think it's worth it. Test drive both and see which one you like better. I like the ecs better than the t-bar, I don't like to have to make the mower go by pressing constantly on a bar. I like to just be able to let it go and guide it.
  3. bushtrimmer

    bushtrimmer LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 351

    It's worth it to me! Never been a fan of tbars, but to be honest, I've never given them much of a chance. ecs or tbar isn't going to improve manuverability or sharper turns. There's only so hard you can apply brakes and let the other wheel turn, the controls aren't going to make a difference. If you want manuverability you need to get a hydro. Once you buy one, you won't buy another belt drive.
  4. dvmcmrhp52

    dvmcmrhp52 LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Pa.
    Messages: 4,205

    As was stated, the ecs controls won't change maneuverability, they are just more comfortable and ergonomically correct than the old grip style.
  5. lawncare4u

    lawncare4u LawnSite Senior Member
    from S>C>
    Messages: 399

    I sure believe it;s worht the xtra $
  6. MacLawnCo

    MacLawnCo LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,847

    Tbar is the only way to go on a belt machine. Try it and youll agree.
  7. Tider6972

    Tider6972 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Alabama
    Messages: 649

    The deck is the more important issue here, because whichever controls you personally prefer, the mower is still a belt drive with it's inherent deficits.

    What are the decks? You're not gonna find a lot of supporters here for a "Recycler" or "SFS" deck. Some of the Toros used the 'eXmark style' deck though, and then you're back to controls!
  8. Mo Green

    Mo Green LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,487

    I thought the Exmarks were a little over priced until I bought one. The ECS controls are great and the quality of cut is exellent. Well worth the extra money.
  9. hp8125

    hp8125 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 12

    Just curious MACLAWNCO, You do outrank me in seniority on this forum so I mean no disrespect but could you explain why you think the T bar is better. I have the ECS on both my Metros and I have about 5 years experience with walkbehinds alone, I have used every type of control on a walkbehind and have found no better setup than the ECS; not including hydros. This is all personal prefence of course so I wont try to sell you my personal opinion but just wanted to know.
  10. KathysLGC

    KathysLGC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,345

    I'm 50/50. I think they're ok. Worth $200 extra?... depends if you want to spend it. It's about preference. I started using the ECS controls last year going from pistol grips. What i like is your arms are closer together. It's easier to lift the front end up with pistol grips. You gotta try both and see what you like.

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