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Is it time to take advantage of the better deals

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Gravel Rat, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    Well as you seen in the last couple posts I have been having troubles with 2wd with a locker in the diff its not doing it. The locker helps but its not enough to cope with the front end of these diesel trucks and the "Superduty Cab" is so heavy the back wheels even with 6000lbs over them don't have enough traction. Looked today and I tore half of a lug off one of my new tires and the rest have heavy chunking from spinning.

    I should have bought a 4 wheeldrive but when I bought my 2003 back in 2006 the 4 wheeldrive trucks were very expensive more than I could afford so I settled with a 2wd with a locker. It works for most instances but with jobsite now I guess I can't chance it anymore I need 4wheeldrive. Where a excavator can go is where a building site can go.

    Now here is where the deals comes into play the truck market has taken a tank especially in Alberta the market is flooded with used trucks. I have been browsing the used truck ads and I can get a used 2005-2007 F-550 4x4 almost cheaper than I paid for my 2wd F-450.

    I think the time to buy is now while the deals are good and the economy is still slow people are not spending any money yet.

    I only owe 2000 dollars on my F450 so I could get another loan buy a F550 4x4 and put my dump deck onto it. Looking at V-10 powered trucks I'am not going with a 6.0 not worth it the V-10 trucks past 2005 are supposed to be excellant with the 3 valve engine. I would want a truck that has a flatdeck on it so I could transfer that too my F-450 and sell it. My F-450 would sell in Vancouver somebody that does P+D on city streets doesn't need 4wheeldrive.

    I'am hoping the economy turns around in 2010 because its been 2.5 years of next to nothing. I want to get back into more of my own work before I do myself in suffering through my current job.

    With things still dead and slow I maybe able to get what I want for a good deal. My job I have now can make the payments till the work picks up in the spring.

    I need to do something for one I'am getting fat sitting behind a desk and two I like working outdoors. Get back into landscaping part time would be good enough for me.
  2. Heavyduty1

    Heavyduty1 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 244

    Who knows about the future but I don't think things are going to turn around anytime soon.

    If you can swing the payments, go for it.:weightlifter:
  3. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    I'am hoping things turn around the Canadian economy is "Supposidly" getting better.

    It sure can't get any worse than it is. Sure hope the h*ll something happens in 2010 people thought 2009 was going to look better not much change.

    The aftermath of the olympics in February 2010 is the turning point either things get better or the d*mn gov't spent over a billion dollars in tax money for nothing.

    Now back to the truck.

    I have some problems with my current 03 F-450 the first problem is 2wd and the lack of traction. The second problem that worries me all the time is powering out. The way the 6.0 is programed there is no :realmad: power at idle. I have a 6spd and if I have a heavy load on the truck and trying to start rolling the truck powers out.

    I have gotten into some tight spots and had some troubles with no power. The 6.0 has tons of power when your rolling but get the load rolling or moving with a heavy load from a stop you have problems.

    I have a 6spd manual works okay I guess I should have a automatic it might be different over a standard behind a 6.0. You really have to slip the clutch with a 6.0 to get the revs up I don't like doing that.

    The truck I have now is good and I know I have said that 4 wheeldrive isn't needed but I guess I need it with the "Superduty" trucks.

    My current F-450 is 1000lbs heavier than my previous OBS FSuperduty diesels. I think the cabs are considerably heavier and the 6.0 is heavier than the 7.3. My old OBS F-450s you put a load on them and the truck would go anywhere. Put a load on my current F-450 not the case :cry:

    My traction problems are climbing dirt roads if I'am on flat ground in the mud not a problem. I was in the landfill yesterday in the garbage muck didn't spin a wheel.

    With the truck market slow the deals are out there I have to look in Alberta if I want a 4x4. That means buying a truck by pictures and having it shipped some how.
  4. RockSet N' Grade

    RockSet N' Grade LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,454

    Is it time to take advantage of better deals? My answer is simply be cautious, do the math, and YES! I have recently carved out another little niche in snow removal (which I have been avoiding for years). I have found out I enjoy it and it is quite profitable. I just bought a 7' blower for my skid with a truck loading chute and a snow bucket for the skid.......thats about $9k right there, so I still remain cautiously optimistic. There are opportunities still out there and you need the tools to do the job......Drive an aggressive bargain.
  5. YellowDogSVC

    YellowDogSVC LawnSite Gold Member
    from TX
    Messages: 3,793

    You are starting to sound positive... good. I wouldn't discount the 6.0. While I don't believe in extended warranties on most things, Ford is offering 6.0 owners a reasonable, extended warranty for 4 years on expired 6.0 warranties. That means, you could pick up an '05, '06, or '07 with 6.0 and get a warranty for about 2k that covers all the big stuff. I may get my ext. warranty in the next week since my '05 just expired this month. I was quoted $1,900 +/- for motor, tranny, 4x4, A/C for 48k more miles or 4 years. $100 deductible.
  6. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    The 6.0 is still in mind if I find a 06-07 model even a 05 model would do.

    It is time for a 4x4 not too impressed I thought the locker would do better than it has so far.

    I don't think my old man is going to give me crap about buying a different truck after he had to pull me out because I got stuck. He was never a 4x4 beleiever till he bought one 10 years ago. Even my mom that shakes her head says why do you have a truck that can't go anywhere.

    What pizzed me off 2 weeks ago when I was trying to get the firewood out of the place I was cutting it. With 5000lbs or so on the truck I still got stuck now that is frustrating WTF the tires just spun they sunk 3-4 inches and spun with that kind of weight the truck should have walked up the road. Then the other day I got stuck getting some garbage out of the neighbours that is when I really chunked up the tires spinning on sharp rocks.

    Yes I'am hoping 2010 improves I'am getting tired of the lack of work the whole community is suffering from being broke. Something has to improve or people my age in the area will have to claim personal bankruptsy.

    With things being slow there are some deals out there right now and I think the dealers are willing to deal to make a sale.
  7. stuvecorp

    stuvecorp LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,246

    GR, heres a different idea - what about getting yourself a winch like you were talking about, paying off your truck and getting something like a mini x? That would expand your service offerings and help with the work you are getting now?
  8. Junior M

    Junior M LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,593

    mini ex's with rubberbands dont last one straight up and down rock cliffs.. :laugh:

    But GR, like yellow said, I am glad to see your being positive. Just remember, the world is how you percieve it..
  9. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    I'am still primarely in the trucking business delivering lumber or sand and gravel. The mini market is flooded with people doing it. I think I will stick with general contracting for now I'am only doing it part time.

    There is little jobs of clearing brush or doing tree removal. I will do light demolition. I'am always in the disposal business.
  10. Omran&Turbo

    Omran&Turbo LawnSite Member
    Messages: 65

    Here in our neck of woods, things still slower than ever, and infact if not for all the odd diffrent jobs I do( from selling wood to fixing barns and salt some gas station and fixing tools) I will not be able to pay the utility bills from my Bobcat, all this year I was down from 80 houses to grade in 07 to 35 in 08 to about 14 this year. thanks the lord I don't have to make any payments on my bobcat, because it is sitting in my garage next to my stove more than working, like this month all what I did is 1 backfill and I drilled some holes for a pole barn ;) so now I am very careful of doing any new buys.
    But each one has a diffrent situation!!!! if you know that your Job is secure, then go for it, deal are real good right now.
    Best of luck and happy 2010 bro.

    BTW Turbo is my Cat

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