So, I have noted a few times where the more researched people in this forum mention that most the 'organic techniques' discussed is overkill for landscape maintenance. The fact that they have been down the intellectual path and have since reached that conclusion makes me curious of their reasoning. My first thought was, wait in the organic maintenance industry, microbes, microbe food management, soil management, and the like, are based off of NATURE and the way these plants live/thrive in nature. Shouldn't the principles and practices apply greatly to the landscape maintenance industry? And I believed it for a couple days. We need to do it in this industry. Why would the agriculture industry need specialized organic practices and the maintenance industry not? But then the thought came.... In the agriculture industry, the envorment does not function like nature designed it. Crops in high concentration and high harvest. Yearly tilling of the soil. Regular pesticide treatments to kill insects, plants, fungi, etc. that might compete with the production plant, etc. The practices in that industry make the plant and ecosystem function in a way that it was not designed to. Learning details about how the natural plant world works and developing techniques to help mimic that is a VERY GOOD application of effort and energy. IE, till the soil and disturb the microbes, killing some?.. when planting, treat it with a microbe innoculant (Compost Tea) to re-introduce the microbes so the plants you just planted will better absorb nutrients the way nature intended. But now for our industry... we don't remove high yields of crops, we don't till every year, we don't do many things to disrupt the natural cycle, so why do we think we need to constantly restore it? Our argument is... get nature to function like it did before humans got involved. Problem is... the only way to get nature to function like it did before we got involved is to get "un-involved". Step away and let nature do its work -- without us! Nature decomposed the rock into minerals, added organic matter, and produced soil for plants to grow on its own. I think it can handle it. I'm not saying all organic techniques are unnesseary, but it does help one to question, is it really overkill to do all this stuff to maintain something that you claim nature built by itself? I know it is a little stirring, but I think it is important to have a good why before any how... so... why are organic practices really better for a landscape? Why are organic practices MORE applicable to the agriculture industry then ours? Rip it up.