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Is this a late spring around the world?

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by Toro 455, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,613

    yeah i know man. this is my 3rd year and i just wish things were growing faster than they are. stupid economy BS and everything i'm surprised any of us can do anything anymore. i'm just wondering you know if you ever in reality get to that place that you dream about getting to or if it's all just a mirage. i've never caught a break in my life. i just wish for once i could. tired of trying and getting my hopes up only to get them crushed. it's like an ongoing endless saga. i mean what's the point of dreaming if it never becomes reality? it's just all pretty worthless at this point. :laugh:
  2. HDLLandscaping

    HDLLandscaping LawnSite Member
    Messages: 138

    Being a start-up this year its not looking good income wise. Luckily I dont have any rent expense and other expenses are minimal. Only gotten one phone call so far this year, and picked up a building family owns and got a job there that will make up for only getting one call so far. It sucks not knowing if the no calls is due to not wanting service or that people might not even want it yet and the flyers went to waste. We handed them out and then the next day it snowed a little! Then it snowed last night a little too.
  3. birddseedd

    birddseedd LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,111

    i usually dream about buying buildings and other equipment. but as far as the wether. its not messed up. its the natural cycle of the earth. frankly this is mild compared to the last cycle. last one the heat lasted 2.5 years
  4. Darryl G

    Darryl G Inactive
    Messages: 9,500

    One thing you can do is go after those jobs that require materials and get the money for the materials up front. Then either charge the materials to your vendor account or to your credit card and get the rest of payment from your customer upon completion of the job.
  5. birddseedd

    birddseedd LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,111

    that is a really really bad idea
  6. Darryl G

    Darryl G Inactive
    Messages: 9,500

    Why is that a bad idea? It's done all the time. It's a worse idea to not get an advance for the materials and to not collect the balance at the time of completion. :laugh:
  7. birddseedd

    birddseedd LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,111

    i agree with that part. from now on only people getting materials credit are ones i know pay on time.

    but to get that credit and then spend it on other stuff? that is asking for trouble. now you owe the credit card or your supplier, but you have already spent the money.
  8. Darryl G

    Darryl G Inactive
    Messages: 9,500

    But you've priced things so that you've made a profit, right...marked up the materials and made a profit on the labor? Essentially all you've done is better your cash flow situation, assuming it's just a short-term cash flow crunch. It's not something I'd recommend if you don't expect to be able to pay your vendor or credit card company on time.
  9. birddseedd

    birddseedd LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,111

    yea. iv been stuck with the bill too many times. dont want to do that again. as of yet i dont know if ill even get my suplier to give me my account back
  10. zackvbra

    zackvbra LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 553

    what i do with materials, i just charge an extra 20%, and that usually covers my fuel and time spent getting the materials. if the materials cost $500, i get $100. but if the cost of the materials at 20% is less than $30, I charge $30. It usually covers fuel and time and the estimate (which is "free" but the charge gets worked in there if i get the job)

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