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Is This Insane?

Discussion in 'Tree Climbing, Pruning, Felling' started by Guest, Sep 13, 2008.

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    funny you mention that Charles, just had part of a tree trimmed back from a power line outside of my house last week and I thought the same thing...one false move or slip up and they could be in big trouble :(

    but, as Stihl200 said, ya gotta do what ya gotta do, and they need to keep those power lines cleared
     
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    I was watching one of those tree companies that go around the country trimming trees for power companies. This guy was in a bucket. The truck was in the road. He went way up and over a "Hot" power line and came down on the other side and trimmed limbs off a tree. Not much room between the line that could easily kill him:eek: I thought that was taking a huge chance for a pay check. Very skillful manuevering. Just looked too risky
     
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    I agree. You here about so many deaths trying this stunt. Just one slip and you are a french fry
     
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    Well I sure hope they get paid better than most lol. I bet its hard to get any kind of Insurance for that kind of work. I wonder if insurance companies ask if you will be trimming near power lines?
     
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    Thanks for the info treevet. You must have nerves of steel.
    I read where the federal government is now fining power companies if tree's cause power outages;

    No more trimming; TVA set to slash any trees in path of power lines
    By Lela Garlington (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
    Sunday, August 17, 2008

    The tiny red truck with its flashing red lights stopped in front of a home in Germantown Friday morning. Overhead, utility transmission lines loomed.

    Not bothering to knock on the front door, the two men went directly to work tying hot pink ribbons on trees in the backyard.

    One by one, the men marked an oak, two maples and four pines.


    TVA workers put pink "kill" ribbons on all seven trees in the yard where Dana Hay plays with her son Lawson Hay, 2. The home at 7080 Woodridge Lane backs up to a power line path and the trees are a hazard, officials say.

    Lorna Brown-Ray is bracing to lose 15 to 18 trees in her front yard due to TVA's new tree-cutting policy. "My two horses won't have an ounce of shade," she said. "I'm not a radical tree hugger. I just don't see the logic."

    Only a 6-foot-tall crape myrtle and three Rose of Sharon bushes were left untagged.

    Unlike the yellow ribbon that symbolizes support for the troops, a pink one signifies a tree's imminent demise.

    The ribbons in the yard at Jeff and Dana Hay's home at 7080 Woodridge Lane mark a much more aggressive position being taken by the Tennessee Valley Authority. The utility has begun clear-cutting rather than trimming or topping trees.

    If a tree causes an outage, TVA could be fined, so to avoid hefty penalties, the utility is not taking any chances.

    A massive blackout five years ago this month helped trigger the new restrictions. Tree limbs came into contact with transmission lines in Ohio. The limbs, coupled with human error and computer failures, caused 50 million people to be without power for days on the East Coast and Canada.

    Crews are expected to start cutting dozens of trees in Germantown Monday.

    "We certainly don't want any outages. But what they are wanting to do is excessive," complained Jeff Hay. The pink ribbons on all seven of his trees, he admits, "anger me. It makes me mad that nobody wants to use good common sense on this."

    All of the trees tagged Friday are either near or within TVA's easements that range from 75 feet to 200 feet in width. TVA workers are tagging some trees outside the easement as "danger trees" if they believe the tree could come within five feet of an electric power circuit or hit a transmission line if it fell.

    Gil Francis, a spokesman for TVA in Knoxville, said new federal guidelines are forcing the utility company to change its past practices.

    "If a tree causes a power outage, they are going to fine us," he said. Rather than face a fine of up to $1 million a day from the North American Electric Reliability Corp., Francis said TVA is not giving any landowner any wiggle room. "Anything over 10 feet tall is a problem," he insisted.

    When asked how something so short could be a problem, Francis added, "They can catch on fire. The bottom line is: Don't plant anything under the right-of-way."

    Francis said he was unsure if any trees along TVA's 17,000 miles of transmission in seven states have ever caused power outages.

    Germantown city officials met Friday with TVA hoping for a compromise. They didn't get one.

    "They could offer no guarantee that there would be any delay," Germantown Mayor Sharon Goldsworthy said. Frustrated and disappointed, Goldsworthy said she is hoping she can convince TVA officials to consider the topography where so-called "danger trees" are planted. If a homeowner's land elevation is lower than where the transmission lines are located, she wants TVA to take that into consideration.

    "It's looking at all of the options before you decide there is only one option," she said.

    Over the past 12 years, Germantown resident Lorna Brown-Ray of 7239 Neshoba Road has haggled and negotiated with TVA over her trees. This year, there won't be any horse trading.

    Brown-Ray expects to lose 15 to 18 trees in her front yard. Of her three-acre lot, about 85 percent falls under the easement: "My two horses won't have an ounce of shade. I'm not a radical tree hugger. I just don't see the logic. How can a weeping cherry knock out New York?"

    Brown-Ray said she hopes TVA will give property owners a five-year window, remove a few trees at a time to abate the erosion and give low-growing ornamentals a chance to get established.

    Brown-Ray considers her piece of property her Eden: "At this point, I wake up every morning and return from work in the afternoon and hope the trees are still there. We're not militant. We're desperate."

    Goldsworthy said she's not giving up. "This is a bad example of one-size-fits-all," she said. "How scorched-earth is this? This is using a rather severe remedy when TVA's actual past practices have seemed to be very very adequate in this regard."

    TVA actions part of national effort

    The Tennessee Valley Authority has notified property owners that they will be clear-cutting under its transmission lines as a national move.

    Trees have caused several power outages. If a tree causes an outage, TVA could be fined

    The letter says, in part, "We are eliminating all tall growing species that may be present on easements where ... fines may be levied. This means we will be clearing the full width of the easement, and trees on edges of the easement that may not have been cut in the past shall be cut during this clearing cycle."

    -- Lela Garlington
     
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    We got contractors from Texas clearing power line right- a -ways all over South Carolina right now at a huge expense to the power companies. They started about a couple of years ago and are still at it. Not just limbs but trees that pose any present and/or future danger. I was referring to one of the contractors in the first post. I saw a good many of the leaving to help with Gustov in Louisiana and probably now in Texas
     
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    I had a customer complain about how they trimmed her Magnolia tree. They dipped it in the center top.:eek: Looked terrible. They should have just cut it level if they were going to do anything. I don't think Magnolia trees are much danger to power lines anyway. These were definitely not arborist doing the SC work. People complained but couldn't do much about it. Many were glad to have the lines cleared because of the ice storms that hit on a regular basis. We could be without power for 2 weeks at a time. Also, the power went out at least once a month due to limbs falling on lines during windy days etc. New Subdivisions now put the lines underground and many cities are contemplating doing the same.. Very costly to make the switch for cities
     
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    we do line clearance all the time, rope and saddle and in lifts, you do what you know is safe!! also it pays very well, 3 man crew with a chipper can make 2200$ a day in my area. over time or after hours its dubble time!!!!
     
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    as an arborist I have to take excepton to that statement, not only does my work provide the needed clearance, we do so with all the morals and principals of an arborist!!! we have helped city's get lines moved and even put underground, not to mention as an expert witness to some others bad practices, that ended with some heavy fines and a lic# pulled permanantly!!!!!
     
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    listen alot of the work I do is to thin and also to reduce the size of the wind load on a tree, we have some trees that will grow out of the scale that will survive here(hurricanes!)
    and after a very active season for the past years power companys have laws to protect them selves, if it has to be cut, most of the time it may just end up as a removal/ replant, or a transplant. also our power co is in the process of storm profing the area, they use arborist to tell them its cheaper to plant a 20-40 year wire than to trim the trees every 1-2 years. we never freze and thing grow at an amazing rate, we have 25 year onld trees with a 100+ inch dbh that will make 80 tall and 80 foot spread, line clear that and it will just fall over on its own. this line thing may be a joke up there, down here its a public safety and environmental issue.

    spell what????.........................
     

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