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is this too much?

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by JRS Landscaping, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. JRS Landscaping

    JRS Landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 817

    i just finished a leaf cleanup today it took me 4 hours to do . i had about 10(give or take) yards of leaves to haul away. i gave the guy a price of 70$ per hour to do it ( me and a worker)and he agreed to it. then the guy calls me and tells me he coulda got other people to do it for less.
    the final price came to be 280
    i paid my worker 40 and it cost me 80 to get rid of the leaves
    what you guys think?
  2. lawnwizards

    lawnwizards LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,439

    thats a low price but if he paid then its o.k. who gives a crap if he could have got someone to do it for cheaper. you told him your hourly rate and he accepted, end of story.
  3. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,460

    It takes a very naive person to pay by the hour to have leaves picked up....not many of those in my area.
  4. LawnScapers of Dayton

    LawnScapers of Dayton LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Dayton, OH
    Messages: 2,572

    Tell him next time he can use them.....
  5. DodgeTruckMan731

    DodgeTruckMan731 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 414

    How do you charge?
  6. fiveoboy01

    fiveoboy01 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,988

    Perhaps he's full of it, and is trying to get you to lower the price. Don't do it.

    So subtract your dump fee(that's what I'm assuming the 80 bucks is for).

    200/4=50. 2 guys, that's 25/man hour. Way too low. I think you should have charged him at least 400 total, if not a bit more.

    But that's all besides the point. This guy is a cheap facker. Do not budge on your price.

    You DID make him sign an agreement before you started the work, right?

  7. justanotherlawnguy

    justanotherlawnguy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,282

    Thats why I will never give a customer an hourly price. I ONLY quote in total price.
    Customers around here would laugh you away from the front door if you quoted them an hourly rate of $70/hr. Granted I make that and then some on nearly every job I do. Its just the customer does not need to know that.....
  8. Ed Ryder

    Ed Ryder LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 541

    I hate doing leaves. I've always done it by the hour... because I am terrible at guessing the time required for leaves.
  9. Roger

    Roger LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,943

    Many posts on LS speak about "no hourly, ... just total price." The reason given is the customer will not like an hourly rate.

    For whatever reason, this thinking implies the customer cannot do the math themselves, "... let's see, ... $x for the job, ... they (he/she) were here xx hours, ... their rate is about $x/hr ...." I doubt very many customers are unable to do the math, and nobody is being fooled.

    I always quote an hourly rate, and nobody ever pushes back. As part of the quotation, I include an explanation of "never know what will be here when I arrive." The customer understands (in most cases) that sometimes the wind blows many leaves away, and they are not being stuck paying for work that is not needed.

    In ten years, I have had only one person ask a question when he got his invoice, "Your charges for leaf work this season are more than last year." The previous season had much different weather conditions and he benefited from less work needed to get the job done.

    To head off the next question (as one post asks above), no, nobody ever signs a contract before starting the work.
  10. noseha

    noseha LawnSite Senior Member
    from MI
    Messages: 554

    don't go back next year. you should charge more. what do you have for equipment?

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