Isuzu NPR, Mitsubishi FE, or Ford LCF?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by SpruceLandscape, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 502

    Hey guys, I'm looking at getting one of these cab-over style dumps for this spring. Either a good deal on a left over 07 or a lease return. I'm just trying to decide which one is the better truck to go with.
    It doesn't matter to me whether its gas or diesel, it should only see around 12-15k miles/year.
    I do want one that I can put a plow on and tow a trailer with say 6K lbs.
    Any thoughts or suggestions?
    I have been pretty impressed with the Isuzus (was looking them over at the dealership) but haven't had a chance to check out the Mitsu in person yet.
    I'm not looking for anything over a 14000 gvw... a 12000 gvw would be sufficient most of the time
  2. Az Gardener

    Az Gardener LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,899

    The Mitsubishi has a much better warranty but they don't offer gas I have been shopping them and I went with a UD (Nissan) I will warn you about a couple of things.

    The new ones will give you a better finance rate so a used one has to be a really good deal.

    I was going to buy a new 07 Mitsu crew cab with a 14' dump bed 48-K lease payments 775 per month with a 20% residual buy back at the end of the 60 mo lease. Well they drug their feet getting back to me after I said its a go.

    In the mean time I saw a 06 UD single cab with 14'dump with 3-K miles for 29-K they did the same lease thing but because it was used they still wanted 775 per month plus a 10% residual. I told them no way and they came back with a 700 payment. I still told them no way they said that was the best they could do on a used vehicle.

    So now I am shopping financing but because of the higher GVW it is a commercial vehicle and you don't get the typical 6.5-8% rate you would get on say a one ton p/u. The rate will be 8-9.5 % if they do the deal. The truck dealership is saying I wont be able to get it done but the loan officer at the credit union says he can. The dealership says the loan officer must be a new guy and when he kicks it upstairs for approval they will decline it. I will let you know how it goes but this has been a real pain in the a$$. :walking::cool2:
  3. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 502

    Thanks for the info.
    I found a 2007 gas 12500 gvw Isuzu with an 11ft. dump body for 29k brand new. But thats also the starting price. They are willing to lease it for $489/ month , no money down for 48 mo. but I'm not sure about the residual at the end. Same place has a 2003 with about 25k miles on it they just got back in off of lease that they will sell for 18-19k with a 11 foot landscape dump on it. But its a really ugly shade of blue and I would REALLY like to stick with white trucks.
  4. gene gls

    gene gls LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,213

    I wouldn't touch a cab over with gas......any brand.
  5. L&L

    L&L LawnSite Member
    from Utah
    Messages: 17

    I picked up a new NPR in march. GMAC had really good interest rates at the time. I got 5.9% For 48 months. I don't know what the rates are right now. Mine is a gas and I have not regretted it one day.
  6. Az Gardener

    Az Gardener LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,899

    Our local Chevy dealership that has the Isuzu's has had a 3.9 rate advertised most of the summer. I just saw a 0% banner up today as I drove by.

    My financing came through today on the UD, better than I thought at 7% payments will be 634 per month on a purchase. In AZ we pay 8.2% sales tax and licensing is 800 for this year on the vehicle so that really runs up the costs. Over 3-K to the sale price not including doc fees.

    I didn't look too long at the Isuzu's here because they have no resale value and every used one I have ever looked at over the years was junk. But if you are using the disposable truck model it might be right for you.
  7. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 6,464

    LCF twin turbos!
  8. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 502

    I briefly checked out the LCF with the twin turbo V6. It has lots of power... But even the salesman at the dealership said that he would much rather sell me the Isuzu or a Hino before an LCF because of the major service issues that mechanics there have been having with them. Granted they have so far been covered under warranty, but the other trucks haven't had any issues.
  9. BrandonV

    BrandonV LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,603

    what are these issues with the lcf? just got heads up that I'll be able to add a truck to the fleet and was planning on going w/ the lcf and a switch n go system (maintenance body and mulch body) we have a mitishibushi, and love it but the power would need to be better to haul all the mulch we want and we've had a crazy amount of recalls (which i do appreciate a recall over a broken truck) but getting it worked on is a bit of a hassle
  10. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 502

    I don't know for sure what the issues with the LCF are, just stating what the salesman at the truck center told me.

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