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It is getting even slower (damn)

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Gravel Rat, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    One of the contractors is sending flyers out in the mail looking for work and giving a discount. A contractor in business for 30 years sending out flyers.

    The sky isn't falling but its got to be getting bad if sending out flyers trying to dig up work. No contractor ever has had to offer discounts or send flyers in the mail.

    I was just surprised to pick up my mail and its what the h*ll a advertising flyer from a excavation contractor, a contractor that has never had any problems getting work even through the slow periods of the 90s and early 80s.

    I guess the contractors are getting a little panicky, the flyers in the mail might be just the start. Might even see them offering some services for free to get jobs.
  2. turboawd

    turboawd LawnSite Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 236

    time to hit the panic button.
  3. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    I don't I have a job :laugh:

    It is just more things that really hasn't been seen. Any excavation contractor in the area has never ever had to send out advertising flyers.
  4. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,570

    what a surprise, another negative .. "the sky is falling" thread.....
  5. Bleed Green

    Bleed Green LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,514

    If you don't have a job why are you worried about work being so slow?
  6. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,136

    He really needs to get off that tiny Island, things are still booming here in the rest of Canada and the Mainland.
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    Ya I have a full time job but I'am getting tired of it.

    With construction/excavation to almost non existant I'am stuck with the job I have now. Trying to get employeed with one of the contractors isn't even a option they have no work. Gravel mines are laying guys off no gravel sales.

    Concrete sales in the Vancouver market has dropped off so there is no demand for gravel production. Gravel mines have kept employees working year round for years.

    Anybody in the construction field right now is really slow its slower than what is usually is. Realestate is dead I heard one house dropped 600,000 dollars just to sell (estate sale). House prices are dropping 50-100,000 a month some people just took their house off the market because they will take a bath on the price. They are taxed for 800,000 but will only get 400,000 for their house. Anybody that bought a house in the boom bought it at a 200% inflated price now its worth half of what they paid for it.

    Forestry jobs are dead one contractor has all his equipment sitting no work no demand for the lumber. The fraser river is flooded with log booms of wood ready to be cut but no damand. When you have over 2 million dollars worth of logging equipment not making a dime its not good especially when your paying huge equipment payments. The employees laid off.

    It is disgusting to see jobs that have kept generations of famillies gone like a fart in the wind. Landscaping is dropping off not because weather its because people have stopped spending. People are cutting back on spending big time. Even people that work in the restaurants are being laid off because business has dropped.

    One contractor has started flyers the others are probably not too far behind. I do see it coming that a contractor working just for expenses just to make equipment payments. Bidding jobs right at the break even point just to get the jobs. Who is going to work for the cheapest rate possible without going broke.

    Its gone from money is no object the contractor could charge anything they wanted to now if the price isn't right your not getting the job.

    Yep the sky isn't falling but your at the point of loosing everything you own. Do you think contractors that have been in the business for 30 years think they will have to give up the business :confused:

    Oh ya the rest of B.C. isn't doing good I have relatives in the gov't that keep track of the employement in the Interior of B.C. its slow. There is some work in Vancouver but its going to stop pretty soon. Companies like Jack Cewe are laying employees off. LaFarge are laying employees off. Look at Bel Construction laying 100 guys off.
  8. BIGBEN2004

    BIGBEN2004 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 823

    Things are going to get even slower now with Osama in office oops I mean Obama.
  9. CAT powered

    CAT powered LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,185

    Now let's make use of a previously useless thread.

    Any of you guys have experience with large wood grinders? I owned a Maxigrind horizontal grinder before and it was EVIL. It wouldn't work at all and I hated it. I need to buy another grinder now and I'm looking at a Morbark tub grinder. Anyone have any experience good or bad with them?
  10. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    Tub grinders are a money looser because you have thousands of dollars worth of repairs. Contractors have tried them the ones that have them spend 1 hour grinding and 1 hour repairing.

    High heat burning is the better option it is what one contractor is working on. You get very little smoke because the fire burns hot and clean more enviromentally friendly than a tub grinder consuming gallons of fuel.

    The only time a tub grinder might be worth it is if you have ABSOLUTELY clean wood debris. Stumps or anything with any chance of rocks imbedded into them forget it. A grinder is 500-1000 dollars per hour that doesn't include a machine to load the grinder or set up costs. You need a excavator with a thumb and a good operator that can spot rocks and other debris that will wreak havoc with the grinder.

    Burning is cheapest option then taking it to a landfill let them deal with it

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