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I've made a HORRIBLE business move, now the piper is calling for his pay!

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by Green Pastures, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Green Pastures

    Green Pastures LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,457

    So a good friend of mine, he was the best man at my wedding....lost his job at a national trucking company recently.

    I hired him on.

    He has zero experience.

    He's argumentative with me when I try and correct him.

    He's damaged equipment doing stupid things.

    He's stolen from clients....taking fruit off clients fruit trees without asking the client is stealing in my book.

    He's caused an accident on the freeway by loading wheelbarrows in the P/U truck bed and NOT securing them in the bed. Pass a semi and a wheelbarrow flies out and goes tumbling down the highway, car swerves to miss it but hits it. $750 repair bill from the guy, THANK GOD nobody was hurt.

    Yesterday I get a call from the city dump super who says my guy is not wearing his OSHA approved safety vest while at the dump and arguing with the super about it.

    Today I get a call from a resident of a HOA I manage. My guy is cutting back Crepe Myrtle trees! Crepe Myrtle trees that are about to bloom. The resident asked him to stop and he argues with her.

    I've been letting stuff go and letting stuff go because I love the guy. I've been hoping he would realize by my tone and things gone unsaid but implied that he's on the ragged edge of employment.

    He doesn't get it.

    It's ALL my fault.

    I've got to fire him. Trouble is I've not given written warnings and he's (outside of work) a good friend, who's wife I know, who's kids I've watched grow up....

  2. dcgreenspro

    dcgreenspro LawnSite Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 688

    I would be out holding his hand showing him how I want it done....and if he really appreciated what you were doing for him, than he would be making a strong effort to do exceptional work.
  3. Toy2

    Toy2 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,924

    You have to man up and can him, everyday he is slowly destroying what you have worked for, don't care who he is.......its your company, and it provides for your family.......

    Like my Dad always says......."YOU GO TO WORK TO WORK, AND MAKE MONEY, NOT TO MAKE F'ING FRIENDS"..........

    It sums it up, I don't have many friends, but I have a beautiful home, wife and kids......and two dogs......its all that matters.......great luck...
  4. mdlwn1

    mdlwn1 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,443

    The bigger picture is.....Truckers, Construction, restaurant workers DO NOT make good landscape service employees.
  5. coolluv

    coolluv LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Atlanta
    Messages: 4,440

    Right on Brother! I don't have but a few friends, the rest are acquaintances. If this guy was your friend he would not be acting like this. Most people that you think are your friend are jealous of what you have and are just trying to F### you anyway they can. Besides he sounds like a dumb@$$. Fire his Dumb@$$.

    Your only friends are Benjamin, Hamilton, Jefferson etc.

  6. Toy2

    Toy2 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,924

    Yes he is right, fire him, pay him unemployment and lesson learned......he knows what he is doing, maybe he is upset with your success......you never know
  7. Littleriver1

    Littleriver1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 811

    I've been there. I think your guy needs his ass kicked. Obviously you're not going to do it. So just look him in the eye and tell him hes fired. What's he going to do? He might act like he wants to fight you but he wont. Don't say your sorry because you are not. He will file for unemployment. That's probably what he's after. By the way. He is not a good friend. You are a good friend. He is a jerk.
  8. Green Pastures

    Green Pastures LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,457

    I don't have time to hold hands, nor should I have to.

    He's 50 something years old.
  9. Green Pastures

    Green Pastures LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,457

    I don't care if he files unemployment.

    I know this guy, his wife, his kids and his grandkids.

    I know when I fire him I'm taking food off his table.

    It IS my fault for not being more clear with him from the start.

    My biggest fault in business has been giving people to many chances and the benifit of the doubt.

    Business is business.


  10. Fvstringpicker

    Fvstringpicker LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,647

    Give him a copy of your post and tell him to think about it overnight and ya'll need to discuss it in the morning. Unless he makes a 180, you can fire him and probably destroy your friendship or let things continue, severely damage your business and destroy your friendship. Unless he changes, your friendship is history.

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