1. Missed the live Ask the Expert event?
    Catch up on the conversation about fertilization strategies for success with the experts at Koch Turf & Ornamental in the Fertilizer Application forum.

    Dismiss Notice

Joined HBL today!!

Discussion in 'Christmas Trees & Seasonal' started by GreenI.A., Sep 20, 2011.

  1. turf hokie

    turf hokie LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,751

    I learned the hard way (when I was 12 and selling fishing tackle at the local flea market) to not give out your product source or vendor. Things have changed since then, but I still wont publicly give out my vendors other than HBL and Christmas decor.

    That being said, it isnt hard to find them, internet and all. Heck, I have them calling me to the point of being severely annoying, pretty much every tom, dick and harry that can find you on the internet will eventually try to peddle their walmart type lights to you...

    Not trying to be a dic but nobody gave me any vendor leads and now I have more than I want and still look for them because you never know who will have that one thing that might set you apart from the next guy.

  2. PlantscapeSolutions

    PlantscapeSolutions LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,009

    You shelled out the bucks for a Chrismas Decor membership as well Turf Hokie? I had the other place that's in HBL's home town offer me a free membership at one point. It's a little interesting that Lite Source and Chrismas Decor are both in Lubbock of all places.

    Most of us HBL members are all spread out and it's not like someone I share info with a few states away is going to take over the world and effect my sales.
  3. addictedtolandscaping

    addictedtolandscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 569

    If you haven't held it in your hands, I will tell you first hand in my opinion, junk. The linkables can not be positioned into place, they are welded and that is that. I asked point blank if the one I was holding had been out door and was told no, it was only a few months old. So I then asked, then why is it rusting.

    I thought the show room was very flashy, in the long run, after getting inside, I found that the things that really caught my eye were made by a different manufacturer, and being resold.

    You say that Mike didn't offer you any suggestions, I have never run into that. Matter of fact, I probably bug that poor man more than any other member. He has been an absolute army of encouragement for me, everyone is going to have a off day, but I can honestly say I have never really experienced that with him. Each and everything he has told me to do, and I finally do, pays off.

    I primarily use HBL product, and have no regrets whatsoever. I had and LED issue last year, the product was 1 year old, the light sets were flown in to me overnight. I got them from half way around the world in 24 hours, hell I can;t get them from Omaha anywhere near that fast. LOL

    As for the other suppliers, like Bryan mentioned, cruise the net. I am already getting phone calls, they started in May. I do have my preferred list I deal with, and HBL is on top.

    Best of luck to you this year.
  4. turf hokie

    turf hokie LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,751

    Yes, I am a Christmas Decor franchise, I went this rout because at the time HBL was just getting started and I really did not know about them, I felt I had a choice between Christmas Decor and Brite ideas if I were to join anybody. Brite ideas was just as costly as CD but the information and product that I saw did not impress me one bit so I went the franchise route.

    They do bring a lot to the table and I do get my money's worth, no question. But it is like every other relationship, it has it ups and downs.....

    As far as competetion, go online to HBL or CD and you will see how tight we are up here in metro NY, My CD territory borders 5 other christmas decors and I have 3 HBL that are within a stones throw of me, and that does not account for the small local home depot shoppers and lurkers on here.

    That is good and bad as well, more recognition for christmas decorating and more call for it, but it also brings out the guys that are pricing jobs for 1/3 of what I do it for, and what kills me is I have seen some come and go but I have one really large thorn in my side that has stuck around a lot longer than I expected him too. That is why I am leary to share too much info because I never know who is reading here and I have too many guys that "are just trying to keep their guys busy" and will work for cost or below cost. Makes no sense but they have told me that to my face......

  5. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,645

    as far as other suplliers, I don't think I have been keeping them a secret, but bryan is right, it is very easy to be a competitor to me, just read my posts on here, I will tell you everything you need to know. I tend to only name names if a source has been particularly good and reliable. HBL has been that for me, and yes, they do run out of items. sometimes even at the beginning of November. But I still reccomend them.

    I have been buying from litesource for about a decade, and I use several of the clips they sell, from shingle tabs, parapet clips, all-in-one ( classic, NOT the plus ). along with a few other items.

    I also have bought other items from other folks, like incan c-9 cord and bulbs, but bulk cord and bulbs are virtually the same everywhere. shop around and find the best price.

    I get most of my extension cords locally, and I am not a fan of making my own cords. I have done it. But it is usually cheaper to buy premade lamp cords than to make a lamp cord. They are, however, usually polarized. I do the wiggle back and forth and can make them work if I have to.

    I have bought LED c-9's from several sources and I tend to try to find the most diodes for the least amount of money. I will be testing some 15 diodes that are fading/color changing for a commercial application this year. But I don't want to reccomend them as they may turn out bad. In the last 7 years I have had so many c-9 leds turn out bad, even from HBL, I still don't reccomend them. I have had decent luck in the past 2 years, as they only fail as often as good incans, but I am still not on the LED train.
  6. GreenI.A.

    GreenI.A. LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,131

    Morning guys, I had planned to call Mike this afternoon if I didn't receive the email this morning. But that shouldn't be needed now, Kate sent me an email with my payment receipt and said that Mike will email me with my membership information.
  7. TexasFire221

    TexasFire221 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 480

    Be VERY careful with Groupon as I have heard many horror stories.

    Well Bryan I purchased the jobs, I will be adding 45 new customers to my list this year and the season hasnt even started yet. I will message ya and let you know how I did. I excited about the season.
  8. turf hokie

    turf hokie LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,751

    That's awesome. I look forward to the message.

    We have signed up 2 new so far and lost 1. another appt tonite. I am crossing my fingers for a good year, have not advertised yet so I am excited about the leads already this year....
  9. addictedtolandscaping

    addictedtolandscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 569

    Talked with Mike yesterday, poor guy needs to find someone to clone him.
  10. addictedtolandscaping

    addictedtolandscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 569

    Texas, 45 HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations on that, that's huge. Three years and I am not half way there.

Share This Page