Just gly’d this so i can start over with better seed!

Garrett1234

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Lawn reno started today. First round of gly down. turf is PRG with an attempted KBG overseeding. Size 12k sq ft. Reason for Reno due to an older “stringy” type of PRG. Did a March addition of top rated seed with tttf and kbg and color is putting this to shame, required less water, less fert, and mows cleaner.
After another round of gly (if needed) the plan is:
-Scalp it (bagged)
-Aerate the living daylights out of it (6+ passes)
- tenacity app
- apply 10 lbs seed per 1k sqft (thinking 3lbs kbg and 7 lbs tttf)
- use a drag
- roll it (debating this)
- apply starter fert
- water water water water
-other debated steps (very limited top soil or Pete moss) or just straw it?
- possibly replacing drag and rolling with a few cultivator passes?

Open to any suggestions. Please don’t hold back if you have a bullet proof method or I’m missing anything

Sidenote (not using starter with meso due to already owning tenacity.)
 

hort101

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Location
S.E. New England
Whats the existing soil like?
Ph? Rocky?
 
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Garrett1234

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Thanks y’all. Existing soil very sandy. And bahaha on the ear of corn! It’s on a slope so during original planting used straw to help with the birds and somewhat help the erosion. But I think the straw can be eliminated also (for the weed potential as you stated and I think erosion will be much less with the conditions it’ll be left with). Thank you.
In regards to rolling, thank you, as that part is one of my least favorites. I believe the kbg choke out is obviously up for issue, however I keep the tttf incredibly short once it germs for the first 30 days allowing a better chance for the kbg to come in. Previous experience had pretty okay results.
This is first reno however, always done from scratch so please any other feedback appreciated and welcome.
 

hort101

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Location
S.E. New England
Compost
Imo nows your time to fix issues and improve your soil
Theres also some newer penn straw thats better seen on here
 
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Garrett1234

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Hi Hort. At what stage might you add the compost. I’ll take a gander on pricing locally for that. Thank you
 

hort101

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Location
S.E. New England
Hi Hort. At what stage might you add the compost. I’ll take a gander on pricing locally for that. Thank you
Some like to topdress then aerate some aerate first
I dont see a clear advantage either way but someone might have compared and have answer

Btw that lawn looks nice in the picture
 
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Garrett1234

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thank you Hort. It was a very difficult decision to kill it. However the results from the “Test lawn” (couple thousand sq ft) I did was so amazing, I just couldn’t let it go.
In regards to compost: I’m willing to bet the following allows for best of both worlds
Aerate
1/4 rate seed apply
Compost
3/4 rate seed apply
You bring a good point with compost.
 

hort101

LawnSite Fanatic
Location
S.E. New England
thank you Hort. It was a very difficult decision to kill it. However the results from the “Test lawn” (couple thousand sq ft) I did was so amazing, I just couldn’t let it go.
In regards to compost: I’m willing to bet the following allows for best of both worlds
Aerate
1/4 rate seed apply
Compost
3/4 rate seed apply
You bring a good point with compost.
It could be leaf compost, composted cow manure, other animal or debris compost
In that order with debris compost be ready for weeds and getem earlyThumbs Up

And water after and appropriately to get good germination
 
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