Just gly’d this so i can start over with better seed!

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    Garrett1234 LawnSite Senior Member
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    For everything I’ve ever done I purchase the tttf and the kbg separate and apply individually. I don’t attempt to blend myself as always worried the smaller kbg seed won’t blend right at home. So I do one then the other. I had four water start times so can’t imagine the wind would have affected watering. Broadcasting seed was done on a non windy day in a cross hatch configuration and can’t see how didn’t poly evenly. Anyhow, I have a million explanations for why it didn’t go swimmingly however I could be wrong on them all due to the poor stand (farming term). Just going to keep growing seed and water and fert at it till it’s think as thieves
     
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    Here is advice on overseeding from Dr Leah Brillman, head scientist at SRO Seeds.
    http://www.sroseed.com/Files/Files/..._Overseeding/How_To_Overseed_Bermudagrass.pdf

    Of course, this is for Bermuda grass winter overseeding. Not your situation. Most of the ideas apply. Notice she suggests applying 8 to 20 pounds of seed per thousand sqft. I would say--go with the higher amount--when you want a lot of grass--plant a lot of seed. More results and sooner.

    Check on the seed and date of testing. Old seed does not germinate well. And whatever the date says--assume the seed loses about 3 percent a month in storage. Worse if the storage is poor--warm and humid is worse than cool and dry.

    And some experts now recommend that "starter fertilizer" be withheld until after germination--apply about when the new grass is about a half-inch tall.

    You need to buy one of those soil moisture meters. Mainly for house plants. About $10 at Home Depot. Then keep the moisture at medium or above. You should be fine.
    Of course, there is the possibility of salt accumulation in an irrigated situation. Local advice is better--nothing like that occurs around here--raining hard right now.
     
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    Garrett1234 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Hi riggle
    Thanks for the tips
    Seed is shipped from seed superstore and broadcast and although I can’t give specifics on test date it was fairly recent. But on seed storage I’ll make sure to keep track of that for future.
    Stater fert is an interesting one to me. I don’t know enough to have a valued opinion. On that however at seeding or after germ both make logical sense to me. Definately curious to see if bags start to read after germ
    Or at seeding in the future if that’s the trend?
    I ordered another 50# of seed to hit it again, so when that comes it’ll now total about 15# per 1000 once applied on the tttf.
    Thanks again
     
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    Back in oldie days on farm we tested our wheat germination before planting. Put some in a weted towel and seen what percentage germinated. We was going test wheat. It was statistical sample.
     
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    Garrett1234 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Just an update on how it turned out and my thoughts.
    Killing a pretty decent looking PRG lawn had me feeling kinda crazy. But this TTTF/KBG blend is just unbeatable. I don’t think in my wildest dreams I could even imagine a better green, disease restraint, stripeable variety.
    anyhow. It’s still thickening up, but for early March I’m really pleased and glad I murdered the old lawn. And it cuts so nice. Not “stringy” like the PRG was. 0B4E923C-3C72-4215-95C7-271761F5A2DE.jpeg
     
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    KerbDMK LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Great job Garrett!
     
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    Tremendous result. Looks sweet, Garret!
    Sorry you had to wait so long and sweat bullets, waiting for it to germinate and knit together.
    Would you recommend that type of tall fescue seed?
    What about the bluegrass? Can you see it? Is it adding density?

    Did you treat for crabgrass?
     
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    Garrett1234 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks kerb. Appreciate it
     
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    hi the riggle:
    I would definitely suggest it. Was originally my spring seeding variety and man did it dominate the prg and that’s spring seeding. I believe the ss1000 from seed superstore is a blend of 4 of the top 10 NTEP rated seeds (That’s from memory. But it’s something along those lines).
    The thickness is amazing. Just amazing. I’m not going to say the blue is super evident, it’s just present. Just fills in those blanks and the creeping rhizome structure is a massive benefit also.
    Yes. I have my crab preventer down and soon willl have my first round of fungicide also.
     

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