"Just won a big one" comes to an end...

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by Herrick, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. JeffInTexas

    JeffInTexas LawnSite Member
    Messages: 30

    Why not re-bid it and up the price? If you know you made a mistake, correct it on the new contract. I wouldn't say you could double it to 72k but you could still submit a higher bid. If you are on good terms with them, then they will understand. If not, you got your wish.

    Also, find some legitimate guys you can pay 10/hr. Your wife and dad I'm sure are great help, but if you find some nails and act like a hammer you may spend a bit more $ right then and there on that contract but you are spending way less time on it and it allows you to grow elsewhere like in the residential market where you can do the majority of it by yourself. Sorry if something like this was posted already, I just read the first few posts on page 1. Best of luck either way. -Jeff
  2. Mickhippy

    Mickhippy LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,275

    Thanks for the update Herrick and Im sorry I was proved (at least in some respect) right!

    Pulled from the other thread...

    Ill give you credit for having a good go at it though, and your honesty!
  3. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Messages: 3,613

    Thats what I figured. So why not bid it at 80 k and then be working your tail off for good money, should you get it. Although that would leave a bad taste in my mouth after getting screwed hard for 3 years. I bet you would still be less than the big outfits. From everything youve said its obvious you low balled it, even if unintentionally.
  4. Greg78

    Greg78 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,010

    Guess I'm not following too well?
  5. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    Greg, that was the original bid... It was re-bid the next year, which is when I matched the other guy, and got a three year contract.

    At this point I have no interest in working here anymore... For whatever money. I want to simplify things and "start over" in a way. Just a man and his mower...

    NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,271

    I've always believed to never mix family/friends with business.... Hire a couple of guys from how do I say this, "Ethnic Persuasion" and watch your productivity increase 50% or more....
  7. johnnybravo8802

    johnnybravo8802 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Ga.
    Messages: 2,319

    Yea, you experienced what most of us have gone through in the past. It's tough to figure out how to grow, get the job done, and not lose your shirt and kill yourself in the process. It's like I've always said about myself, I can ride the mower all day long but running the business is the tough part for me. The fact is, you were successful with this contract when everyone thought you wouldn't be-you proved everyone wrong!!!!!:clapping:Personally, I'd keep the contract and try and figure out what I need to do differently to be a business. I'm planning to bid on a golf course community in a few months that consists of 260 units, common areas, club house, office, etc,etc, and about a billion shrubs(It's huge and the largest thing I've ever tackled). The company that's currently maintaining it now has 20 trucks.....I have one pick-up and just me and whoever I hire. Some may think I'm crazy but I say, if they can do it, so can I-I don't let that kind of stuff stand in my way. Everyone has to start somewhere and I can grow just like the next person...it's not rocket surgery. The only person standing in your way is you. Good luck!:drinkup:
  8. Duekster

    Duekster LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 7,961

    Time to sit down and look at your books. Review your cost and desired income.
    You need to sharpen your pencil for bidding.

    There are "Small Business Development Centers" and "Score" run through the SBA. These are free programs designed to assist you. They will not do the work for you, you should have a good understanding about your finances, and business plan, from there they will help you improve it.

    Many of these folks are retired or semi retired business experts.

    I run a fairly successful small business with 3 employees and one part timer. Been in business since 2005. I am going in today with my financial statement. It will be reviewed for free -

    Below is the Bio of the person going to look over my business for me.

    I would be a fool not to talk to this person and learn from him. I can take my 7 years of experience and grow it on sure ground with some mentoring.
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2012
  9. Roger

    Roger LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,943

    What he said.

    I'm only solo, and am much smaller in business size. But, I also have had opportunities (unsolicited) to take on jobs with larger work scope, or jobs that required equipment and experience I did now own.

    I am at a season of life where I did not want to venture too far off the beaten path. While being really interested, and enticed to take on these jobs, I just decided to leave them alone. I've developed some relationships with a couple of other LCOs in my area that are better equipped to handle. I pass off these jobs to them. Sometimes they come to fruition, other times not.

    As a side note, LCOs that have a few people as crew, maybe a couple of crews, and much equipment, make it a point to establish a relationship with the solo guys. I had to work at getting a business card from a couple of LCOs that I liked. I was ready to give them leads, ready to help them out, and they couldn't be bothered to go to the truck and find a business card. I only wanted to work with somebody whose work and equipment I knew. We worked properties in the same neighborhoods. Don't pass off the solo guy as being a thorn to you. He may be willing, and happy, to give you leads that you do not need to find yourself. And, if you get a lead that turns out well for you, have the courtesy of reaching back to let him know what happened. If not, he may never pass another one to you.
  10. Duekster

    Duekster LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 7,961

    I try to keep cards on my trucks but bottom line is they guys do not always have one. We do go through the trouble to put our contact info on the side of the truck. I hear ya however.

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