Just won a big one...

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Herrick, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 6,463

    Wow that sounds way to low...I hope im wrong tho...
  2. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Why I look at the bright side, one less competitor.

    Well you can do it in 2 days but you need headlights on all your equipment, I think we're talking close to 40 hours per service here.
    A 40 acre sprawl ain't getting done in under 30 if it takes an hour an acre...
    The problem is sheer distance, all the islands, the CURBS, the weeds, omg...

    If there wasn't 30 thousand dollars hanging in the balance it would be funny.
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2008
  3. johnnybravo8802

    johnnybravo8802 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Ga.
    Messages: 2,319

    No, I know when to hire people for certain jobs. I'm saying it takes 10 hours with me and three others. Like I said, one person can only do so much-I am solo most of the time but have a couple of guys I use when I think it will be inefficient by myself.
  4. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    Thanks, that was some really good and helpful info.
  5. Grits

    Grits LawnSite Silver Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 2,994

    **** you..
  6. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    Little bit of an update...

    Should be getting the contract finalized shortly. Really looking forward to this the more I think about it. I do appreciate the words of caution from many of you... really made me stop and think some things over. I've also sat down and tried to think of every last penny I'll have in expenses. I feel like I have a good handle on things. Also looking into a couple of other larger size accounts, 10-15 acre type stuff, and starting to contemplate the employee thing a lot harder. Biggest hang up there is feeling confident enough that I can find someone who will keep up with me, do a good job, show up every morning, and do it for $10/hr. We'll see...

    KACYDS LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 559

    Wish you the best. Good luck.
  8. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,373

    Around here, people can go to work at Menards for $10 per hour.

    The dishwashers and cooks at a local hospital went on strike because they were only being paid $14-17 per hour.

    You're going to want to look around. Look at the industries where people have to put hard labor in. Construction, masonry, etc.

    To find good, dependable workers, you're going to want to try to compete with these job markets.

    I had to start paying $16+ per hour before I finally got people worth hiring, pulling them away from other industries.

    If you read enough on these boards, you'll see you're going to have to get closer to $20 per hour, than $10, in order to keep someone worth while.

    Not bashing, just making sure you're looking at the big picture.

    Took me almost 20 years to figure this one out.
  9. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    I agree 100%... I know there are a lot of other things I'd do for $10/hr before cutting grass in the heat all summer. There comes a point when you absolutely HAVE to hire help to keep up, but where is that point? Is it worth working 70-80 hours a week to keep the extra profit vs hiring someone and getting done in 40 hours a week? Something I have to think about some more.
  10. johnnybravo8802

    johnnybravo8802 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Ga.
    Messages: 2,319

    The hourly rate of an employee depends on the area you live in also, I might add. I have three good people I can call on right now for $10/hr., believe it or not. A lot of people on here swear on making $60/hr. and I've decided that people around here just won't pay it-it's whatever the market will bear. If you can only pull $40/hr. out of the hat, you can't afford to pay a worker half of that. One final note-One man can only do so much! I am solo most of the time but the more I do this, the more I realize how inefficient one person is a lot of the time. I just can't seem to focus on the details when I'm by myself for lack of time and energy. It's really competitive out there and I'm finding out that the details is what keeps your job-anyone can ride a mower.

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