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Just won a big one...

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Herrick, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. ovalracer44

    ovalracer44 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 282

    Right now headed into the supposed lean economic times, you may have pulled a big benefit against your competition.

    None of these people are getting out there and cutting their own grass. As long as you do a good job this is a save account. Use it to segway into bigger and better.

    Good luck.
  2. DuallyVette

    DuallyVette LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,609

    A $10 an hour worker costs me about $20 an hour, for each hour that he's working on a property. This include workers comp, matching FICA taxes, holiday and vacation pay, and the worst...windshield time.
  3. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    Another quick update...

    I included a fuel surcharge in the contract that adds a small amount to cover extra costs if gas prices rise above $5 per gallon. The director actually asked if I'd work it the other way also... for every dollar gas is under $4 a gallon I make the price cheaper...

    uuugghhhh NO. sorry. You accepted the bid as is, I'm not going any cheaper.

    I guess worst case I threaten to pull my bid and they can pay the extra $15k for another company to do it. I've got a lot less to loose than they do.
  4. Albery's Lawn & Tractor

    Albery's Lawn & Tractor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,674

    Thats why you never give your reason for price increase as a Fuel Surcharge. I'dont blame him for asking. Can't wait for a mid-season update next year. Good luck, and give it hell.
  5. bighaydenslawn

    bighaydenslawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 516

    Hey man I wish you well. There are a few things, though. I feel the price was maybe $10K more than your bid, not $20-30K like some people are saying. Also, old people are harder to work with. They think that work should be done with a 21" reel mower like they used to do back in the day. They might not think much of your 60" JD ZTR, esp. 2-3 days per week of it. All that asphalt, hope you have a good backpack and a lot of extra time accounted for. You will simply have to trim and edge everything every cut to suit gramps, no questions asked. Also, the hedge trimming deal might not be worth it - those old folks are pretty darn picky. JMO. Good Luck.
  6. johnnybravo8802

    johnnybravo8802 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Ga.
    Messages: 2,313

    I'm not sure if you caught the sarcasm, but I think the guy was trying to be an ahole.....that's a big red flag to the kind of person you're going to be dealing with. :nono:
  7. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    not so much of an ahole as a cheapskate... sounds like the maintenance director is with me on this one, so I don't think it's going to be much of an issue. Most of the time I'll be dealing with him directly, and he's pretty down to earth and knows how things work in real life. It's the executive director that's been in an office too long I think.

    There have always been big machines used on this property, no one should have a problem with my zero turns that will actually have any authority to do anything about it. I've got another account, that if it goes through, I'll probably pick up a push blower for the fall clean up which would help with clean up here also. I think between my OCDC and BR600 clean up shouldn't be that big of a deal regaurdless.
  8. Lawn-Scapes

    Lawn-Scapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,810

    Do you understand that you will only be earning approximately $10,000-12,000 based on your numbers? I hope for your sake it doesn't take any longer then 30 hours. Also.. insurance premiums and retirement have not been taken out of this number yet.

    I can't believe that places this size don't require you to have a minimum of equipment... Did they ask you to provide proof of insurance?

    Good luck with it...
  9. South Florida Lawns

    South Florida Lawns LawnSite Platinum Member
    from usa
    Messages: 4,784

    Good luck to you, I think that I would get burnt out spending that amount of time on one property a week. I think I would look for some good cheap helpers.
  10. Herrick

    Herrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 506

    If this was my only job I might be making that much... I've got my costs figured out, and know what I need to make ends meet and have some left over.

    Minimum equipment? I've got pleanty for what I do. My dealer is very good about loaners if something breaks. I've got insurance, and they have seen the certificate...

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