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Keep an eye on N

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by rcreech, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,153

    Don't want to start anything here on fert prices...but just so you know, I got a price on 28-0-0 for the farm last week and again yesterday and it is starting to creep up. They were predicting this on the ag side and say it is going to continue to creep up!

    What does this mean......?


    Keep an eye on the ball I guess.

    I am once again stocking up with several other Lawnsite members as it is lower then I have ever bought right now!

    I LITERALLY can't be screwing up as it can't really drop much more unless the world falls apart!

    Just an idea...but a good one (suppliers will hate this).

    Me and several other guys in my area (and a couple here on LS) are grouping our orders together. This is called a buying group on the ag side. Instead of me going to a supplier and ordering 30 ton of pre I can now go to the table with 60 ton of pre. Same thing on chems and other fert. Volume speaks!

    You can save several dollars/unit and this will help to get better pricing and to compete with the big boys (if needed). Really adds up!!!!!

    Makes a big difference and everybody wins!
  2. FdLLawnMan

    FdLLawnMan LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,242

    That's weird because my local Ad supplier told me about 3 weeks ago that he figures N will be lower next spring than it is now.

    I can't volume buy because I am the only one in my area using the fertilizer blends I use. I am going to use a lot of UMAXX and UFLEXX next year. I tried it this year and was extremely pleased with results. The only Polycoat I will buy for next year will be Duration if Wisconsin gives it the ok.
  3. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,153


    You may have made my point! I don't think anyone knows. If a nuke is dropped or Obama keeps up his crap yada yada anything can happen!

    N is cheaper right now then it was 4 years ago. There isn't much downward movement left unless they are going to give it to us.

    I shouldn't have said JUST ag.....either.

    I have been working with 3 vendors on our turf fert and they all think the fert market is at the BOTTOM also.

    I just stated ag as they think so and it is showing an increase.

    It just can't go much lower. So even if we are not AT the bottom, we are very very close.

    I am willing to role the dice and LOCK IN MY PROFITS.

    Right now...I will make (or increase net) about $9,000 more next year just by buying my fert now! Could I wait and see if I could do better????

    Maybe...but there is also another way it can go!

    No brainer to me!

    I have learned Many Many times to not be greedy and lock and a great profit when possible.

    Too many times have I waited on the "next nickel" in the grain market just to watch it drop a dollar or fifty cents. :dizzy:

    So in a sense...that nickel can cost you $1,000's!!!!
  4. whoopassonthebluegrass

    whoopassonthebluegrass LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,305

    Crap. I'm still paying the same price for N that I have been all year. How much of a drop are you guys seeing?
  5. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    Don't tell the kenyan
  6. FdLLawnMan

    FdLLawnMan LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,242

    Rodney, if I could afford to buy it now I would. I am just not in that situation with my cash flow right now. I hope to be able to buy it later this year.
  7. kirk1701

    kirk1701 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,981

    All I can say is, your absolutely correct my friend :drinkup:

    911 anniversary is just around the corner and alkida or however it's spelt has done said Obama will be tested in his first year in office :dizzy:
  8. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,153

    I totally understand...but you can always borrow it!!!

    Do you think I am paying cash for it? :cry:

    How are things going up North for ya? Having a good year?
  9. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,153

    At the beginning of the the year...a 30-0-10(50% SCU) was well over $17. Now I have quotes for under $12 for a VERY SIMILAR product.

    I am still using my $12 fert from 2 years ago. :)

    You need to check around there man.

    Getting quotes for Pre right now that are even less then the 30%N!

    Life is good!
  10. whoopassonthebluegrass

    whoopassonthebluegrass LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,305

    Unreal. Feed grade urea is costing me $16.75 ... 25-5-10 w/3%Fe is at $18.50...


    That's what I get for actually TRUSTING my supplier to continue to take care of me. I used to shop around. He always did me right. So I gave him my loyalty and :cry::cry::cry::cry:

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