Don't want to start anything here on fert prices...but just so you know, I got a price on 28-0-0 for the farm last week and again yesterday and it is starting to creep up. They were predicting this on the ag side and say it is going to continue to creep up! What does this mean......? Dunno! Keep an eye on the ball I guess. I am once again stocking up with several other Lawnsite members as it is lower then I have ever bought right now! I LITERALLY can't be screwing up as it can't really drop much more unless the world falls apart! Just an idea...but a good one (suppliers will hate this). Me and several other guys in my area (and a couple here on LS) are grouping our orders together. This is called a buying group on the ag side. Instead of me going to a supplier and ordering 30 ton of pre I can now go to the table with 60 ton of pre. Same thing on chems and other fert. Volume speaks! You can save several dollars/unit and this will help to get better pricing and to compete with the big boys (if needed). Really adds up!!!!! Makes a big difference and everybody wins!