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Kelp, Alfalfa, soy... oh my!

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by TMGL&L, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. TMGL&L

    TMGL&L LawnSite Member
    Messages: 243

    Can anyone fill me in on what the fundamental roles of each of these are?

    I read over the faq by the way I'm looking for some more here.

    How much, when, why one or the other.

    Feel free to mention an organic product I didn't include.
  2. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,115

    They are all foods to feed the different biology in the soil. Kelp and fish have great nutrients that help the plant grow.

    Fungi like cellulose and more complex stuff, bacteria like simple sugars, which one are you trying promote, feed it that

    The grains usually have a lot of proteins that are good sources of natural N
  3. wallzwallz

    wallzwallz LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 361

  4. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    well the broad question award goes to....some further research will yield a broad and varying response to almost all those feed in puts, an example CMG, its used for weed control, and some will say that its also good fungal control because it harbors some types of GOOD fungus. there are other examples so narrow your needs? and ask away. nature does some incredible things, that we dont really under stand fully, as a collective that is.
  5. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Alfalfa is claimed to have root growth enhancing properties. Soys are higher protien, therefore higher N.
    Wheat could actually be used to bind up P , before it breaks down and releases it again. Lots of ideas out there, the question is how much is folklore and how much really makes a difference on your soils and in your climate.
    Test for yourself before you bet your business and reputation on many of these ideas.
  6. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Fanatic
    from zone 6
    Messages: 6,118

    How or why does wheat bind up the P?
  7. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Last fall or winter Gerry Miller had brought that point to our attention and it had the active ingredient named and everything. I googled the chemical.
    The first thing that occurred to me was putting it in the muck of stinky lake and then removing and using for horticultural puropeses.

    The discussion never went anywhere, and I never bookmarked, evidently. :(
  8. TMGL&L

    TMGL&L LawnSite Member
    Messages: 243

    By the way I applied kelp and tea today.

    I don't know what the seaweed does really all I know is that its microbe meat so I used it.

    I'm pretty excited:)

    Soil tests better come in soon though I'm starting to wonder if they lost my stuff or not.......
  9. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    Its mostly K but also Seaweed fertilizers are an especially usefull product in organic gardening. They contain almost every micro-nutrient in a fully chelated (immediately available) form. They deliver a healthy dose of natural plant hormones. Seaweed is also loaded with carbohydrates, which the plants use as a building block and which large populations of beneficial micro-organisms use as a food source.
  10. TMGL&L

    TMGL&L LawnSite Member
    Messages: 243

    I put this in another thread and got no bites...Can anyone enlighten me?

    I have some of Organica's "microbial conditioner" which has lime in it. Do I risk damaging my lawn with it. Should I get a soil test done first?http://www.organica.net/consumer4stepmsc.asp

    Has anyone used this stuff? ... and the results?

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