Key to a Toro Custom Command Box

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by Snyder's Lawn Inc, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,530

    I have a problem.
    I pick up a New account and I set the controller and next day. Some how the program changed.
    Start time 5am 9 zones at 15min is what I had it set at.
    Next day at noon was still running. I check box it was moved to B from A.
    On B it was set 3 hrs per zone.
    So I thought maybe I bump it to B.
    So I set it back on A and check each zone on the controller and lock the box.

    This has done this 3 different times. Manager and I have a key , he said has not touch it.

    Is the Controller bad ?

    Will any Toro key work on any Toro box?

    Im thinking someone getting in there. Trying make my service look bad.

    This is on a Box Store Lawn account. I'm thinking a higher bidder is a sore looser.

    The box sits out in the lawn. I thought about mounting my trail cam to see who getting in there.
  2. mitchgo

    mitchgo LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,955

    More then likely User error. You are aware if there is programming in a, b,c,d implented in, as long as it's in the run position it will all run .

    For example
    Program A Every other day @15 Min each zone @ 9am
    Program B Every other day @ 3 hours each zone @ 9am

    The controller will stack this programming- once it's done with PGM A it will go to B.

    -Create a dummy run time with 1 program only to ensure it comes on for you.
    - Erase all programming and start fresh.

    Verify and Confirm- That's the best thing for you to do. Once you have done both- you will know what to do. If you can't figure this out, please get someone in who knows what they are doing. I highly doubt 15 min each zone is the proper programming anyways.
  3. mitchgo

    mitchgo LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,955

    Not every Toro key- However there is a Keymaster @ like $50 of like 25 keys for all major brand irrigation controllers..
  4. jbell36

    jbell36 LawnSite Bronze Member
    from KANSAS
    Messages: 1,416

    i can almost guarantee that it's user error and the programs are stacked...concentrate on program A ONLY...delete ALL other programs...also, double your station run times and you will be more in the ballpark...have you checked what zones are what (sprays/rotors)?
  5. DPlumber

    DPlumber LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    I've had that problem with RB ESP-M. Set an unused program run time to zero and it swithches to the next position after I set it, 6 hours. Customer was perplexed when his sprinklers ran for 6 hours when I turned it on a few months ago. Then it happend again yesterday with another customer, happily I caught it as I was rechecking the run times before leaving.
  6. greenmonster304

    greenmonster304 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,690

    Custom command will run multiple programs at once.
  7. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,530

    First time I thought it was my error.
    Well I deleted all other programs I have deleted each time it mess up B C D programs was and is shut off, But 3 times. Some how they program there self

    First time it was like set for noon 2nd time it was set for 3pm and this last time was set a 5am for each zone at 3hrs.

    I put a secure tape on there. To find out if box gets open. Tape broken next time I'll put my trail cam up.
  8. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 27,061

    shut the days off on the programs you don't want. Easiest way to keep em from running.
  9. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 50,752

    You know, from a locksmith standpoint, it's pretty damn easy to replace a controller lock with something keyed differently.
  10. Mike Leary

    Mike Leary LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 23,171

    In spite of Toro getting their grubby hands on it, the clock was a good one, basically a Hardie/Irritrol "Total Control" on steroids. It takes a standard key, I believe it has a password feature that can be entered. :waving:

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