Well, some of you may recall I had quite a lot of trepidation earlier this year trying to decide whether to finally make the switch over to LED or not - and if so, what brand. After gathering a lot of info. at the I.A. show last year, doing a lot of research, and many discussions here on Lawnsite and also privately with very respected members of this forum, I finally concluded I would start installing Kichler LED fixtures this year. After having installed hundreds of them this year and installing 3x as much lighting than any previous year to date, I have to say I'm very happy with my decision. My customers have been happy with every install we've done, I've been very impressed with the results of the installs, and the support I've received from Kichler since I committed to using their product has been outstanding. They really go above and beyond. My only problem is that, within the Kichler LED series, they really don't have any great options for down lights. I'm wanting something like the Quasar1 from Unique Lighting or the Trellis Solare by FX Luminaire. Something where the lamp is hidden back in a socket a little bit, to protect people from glare as they walk or sit around in a patio setting. Typically, I'll use these around the corners of a pergola that we have just installed, as in the pergola pictured here. The goal is to down light the patio with a soft glow (frosted lens, typically) to create a nice ambiance / glow over the patio area below. I've been happy with the Kichler LED products in terms of spot lights for uplighting trees, step lights, path lights, and wall wash lights. But in terms of a good down light with a deep socket (like the ones mentioned above) they really don't offer anything in their current LED line up. Sure, you can take a spot light and put a regular cowl over it or one of the deep cowls over it. But that's not really the same thing. Those cowls don't even cover 50% of the area around the fixture. Too much glare comes off of these spot lights when pointed down from above. Partly because the cowl doesn't really cover all the way around and partly because their spot lights are so wide, compared to the other down lights I mentioned above. I don't want to take a traditional light fixture and just throw an after market LED MR-16 in there. I'm concerned those aren't really going to last long. I like the fact that the Kichler LED lights should last 15 years. The best I've been able to get anyone to commit to on an LED MR-16 is that it might last 3 years. Part of the whole benefit to the Kichler LED system is the fact that you don't have to change lamps for over a decade. So I want something similar for whatever down light I install too. It's a major selling point to be able to tell a customer they won't have to worry about changing lamps. The best I've been able to come up with is the new JubiléBijou by FX Luminaire. And my supplier told me the LED lamp in there is warrantied for 10 years. So that's at least closer to 15. So has anyone been able to come up with a good LED based down light that has a nice deep socket/cowl all the way around it to protect from glare, that is also not going to need to be switched out in 3 or 4 years?