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Kohler oil filter cross ref.

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by Runner, Mar 24, 2007.

  1. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    Does anyone know some numbers of some oil filters for Kohler 25 motors? I have the Kohler # of 205-2005, and would like to know the ref. # for AC Delco and/or Fram. I would prefer the larger (longer) filter. Any help is greatly appreciated.
  2. accuratelawn

    accuratelawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 922

    fram pf3600
  3. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    Dude...Thanks! Is that the long filter?
  4. HenryB

    HenryB LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,844

    I believe Frahm ph3614 also works, that might be the long version.
  5. Bill Kapaun

    Bill Kapaun LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 949

    "Briggs/Kohler type" 3/4" X 16 threads 8-11 PSI Bypass
    Gasket 2.734"OD 2.430"ID 0.226" thick
    Length" Wix Purolator Hastings Kohler B&S Baldwin JD TEC MotorCraft AC Fram
    2.3" 57035 NA LF503 2805001 492932 B7165 ? 36563 NA NA? NA
    2.7" 51056 L35310 LF302 1205001 492056 B1410 AM125424 36262 NA PF2210 PH8172
    3.4" 51348 L10241 LF157 5205002 491056 BT223 AM101207 ? FL793 PF53 PH3614
  6. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Here's what I have, these are Advance Auto Parts storebrand filters:

    AA3614 - Kohler 15hp Command and Pro (notice it's the same last as Frahm ph3614)
    AA4967 - Kawasaki 25hp V-twin 4-cycler (dunno for sure, but would Frahm ph4967 work?)
    AA16 - All or most Dodge 318 and 360 cid engines, and yes ph16 works but aa's cheaper lol.

    Don't think this applies here, but I'll throw it in:
    AA2870A - All or most classic series bmw 325i's (perhaps e's), that is the square model, mid-80's to early 90's.

    Nice red filters, with that grippy surface.
  7. razor1

    razor1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,985

    Will that fit the Kohler 27?
  8. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    The best way to do it, this is how I do things, is if you're a regular (well known) customer at some parts store, simply take the old filter with you and go where they're located and start comparing. You might can do it at most any store, but I prefer not to be a complete stranger just in case somebody starts asking questions, as a rule you'll have to pull 3-4 filters off the shelf, maybe more or less, depends. Please do make sure you do this one filter at a time, and leave things neat and orderly as you found them lol.

    A visual comparison of the seal diameter is good, for me so far visual for the thread (coarse vs. fine) has been ok for that, but the diameter of the thread I usually use physical comparison (actually, I stick one of my larger fingers slowly down in it and remember where it stops, then do it to the next one and see if it's the same size hole, by the way don't get your finger caught lol).

    Takes a bit of doing the first time around, once you've found the right one do make sure to keep the flap from the box with the part number OR write it down someplace before you forget, this is a once-done forever smart procedure if done correctly.
  9. Bill Kapaun

    Bill Kapaun LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 949

    How do you measure micron rating & bypass pressure with your finger?
    I guess actually going to the filter mfgr. website and looking up a filter isn't the best way?:laugh:

    Has an excellent cross ref function. It may not give you the exact specs of their competitors filters, but you can get other details such as gasket dia., thread size & pitch, filter height & dia. They also give you the NAPA Gold number by subtracting the leading "5". from the Wix number.

    20mmx1.5 (.787" x .059")
    3/4"x16 (.750"x.0625")
    13/16x16" (.8125"x.0625")

    I wouldn't trust my accuracy with the "finger test", when I can simply look up the info. If I'm a "well known customer at a store, I'd expect them to be willing to look up info in their book.
  10. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Don't care, I run synthetic oil and do what I want, basically.
    For the most part I change it when it starts to turn color, whether that's at 3000 miles or once a year, when it starts to turn color.
    The filter becomes a formality at that point, I replace it mostly because it has to be replaced, if the engine has one.
    My 10hp Briggs doesn't, neither does my 5hp Honda, and the 8hp Kohler doesn't either.
    But the 15hp Kohlers and the 25hp Kawasakis do.

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