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Landscape design

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by LawnsRUsInc., Oct 22, 2007.

  1. squirrel19

    squirrel19 LawnSite Member
    from KY/TN
    Messages: 58

    No its not the pot calling the kettle black. Its called defending myself. If you go back and read every post then you'll see. This is ignorant.
  2. pls8xx

    pls8xx LawnSite Member
    Messages: 64

    I hope you guys are paying attention to what AGLA is trying to tell you. Design with photos and sooner are later you will sell something you can't build. Myself, I don't want to go there. Design on a plan view and then render it for the customer.

    Now I need to take up AGLA's contention that my example is one that probably can't be built. In an early post he said "Clearly the bed between the house and walk is about 3'wide when you look at the "before" pictures. But when you look at the mock ups it looks quite larger. One shows a 5' holly or arb ..."

    While my intention was limited to showing the results that can be had with a simple photo editor, I did try to stay within the relm of possibility. When I looked at the front door entry compared to the walk width before it widens, I concluded it was a 4 ft walk.

    In the photo below, I use the brick pattern to draw about a 2 ft line in blue and then move this line to the windows. Looks like 2 ft windows for a 6 ft assembly. The line is then moved to the shrub base and shows a diameter of a bit more than 2 ft. The height of the shrub is compared with the window features, shown by the red line.


    Next I take this same shrub and transfer it to the photo where the width of the bed strip is better seen. The features of the windows are used to scale the shrub seen by the red line as it is placed into the same position as in my example. A line is drawn across the 4 ft walk and then moved to the bed for comparision.


    Looks to me like the bed is 4 ft or a bit more. The plants of my example do fit the space. One may not like the plant selection and arangement, I'm not so sure even I like it, but it can probably be built. And if built, will look close to edited photo I did.
  3. AGLA

    AGLA LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,774

    It may in fact be a 4' bed, but the point is that once you start adding photo plants into it, it starts to look even bigger and gives the illusion that more or bigger plants will fit. That is why it is important to prove the planting out in a plan before doing the mock ups for your client.

    I just see a lot of guys jumping into the photo manipulation and bypassing the measuring and planning in order to give an accurate representation.

    No one offering up these mock ups on this thread is offering up a design. We all were just showing what tools are available and possible pitfalls. I don't mean to call anyone out because no one has the measurements.

    I just think we all need to be careful not to put down the tape measures and scales. If you do that you'l be operating on the same shakey ground all of us from different corners of the country are on trying to decide just how much room there is in those photos and what will fit.
  4. BW Landscaping

    BW Landscaping LawnSite Member
    Messages: 57

    thats a great program, i need to get one
  5. E LAND  Inc.

    E LAND Inc. LawnSite Member
    Messages: 29

    Your all wasting your time. The only original one here is "jwingfield 2K",
    he's actually hand drafting his design work, bravo jw. I too hand draft my
    designs and color render them. Talk about cookie cutter landscapes, anyone
    can click a button on a design program. Ok, lets say these are good designs
    even so it looks absolutely rediculous, fake and hoaxy. Ya with me jwingfield2K? Im not knocking all of you for your efforts. Different approaches work for
    different businesses, but what happend to originality. Great landscape
    architects never used this crap back in the day, so why should we now.
    Again Im not knockn' you guys, just that Im praising jwingfield2K design
    talents, keep up the good work!!!

    ps jwing great printing, looks very architectual, decent graphics as well

    Oh, Squirrel19 is that really your wife, or is that your cousin or sister. You
    know everyone else here is thinkn' the same thing. Just kiddn' man, good
    for you, thats gotta be nice coming home to every night after being in
    the trenches all day long digging holes.
  6. mdvaden

    mdvaden LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,946

    Here we go for more fun.

    Styles sure contrast. Here's two images from the other thread. One of the original post ...

    And my more vegetative version below...

    I'm going to dig out my laptop and try the images for this thread and put in another reply.

    AGLA's rendition was similar to the first image below too. Didn't post it, since it was linked to photobucket rather than attached.



    I seem to be more into the foliage look.

    Maybe its from living in Oregon.

    Let's see what kind tinkering this threads images bring :)
  7. mdvaden

    mdvaden LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,946

    Well, for the first image, I see someone else also had the idea of a tree like Jap maple for the triangular bed.

    But knowing trees as I do for growth, they grow and dwarf shapes and rocks.

    A tree will work, but expand it's bed so it would be almost on the lawn edge of the existing triangular space,

    The area is small and chopped up as is, so don't use too many things or levels.

    One type of plant in the front bed like a short azalea hedge sheared. Or a small mass plant of something else.

    The rose is suggestive. would have to be there to guess about the trellis. You can espallier Sasanqua Yuletide Camellia on both sides of the window similarly, for a wall-hugging planting of winter foliage color. Provided your winters are not too nasty. If so, maybe the rose or other.

    Keep the planting under the tree - or in that bed - simple. Maybe another mass of flowers, Viburnum davidii, etc..

  8. E LAND  Inc.

    E LAND Inc. LawnSite Member
    Messages: 29

    I like your thinkn' mdvaden, but keep in mind Jap maples need sheltered
    area with filtered light and protected from winds. Cant tell by pics
    where the front yard is facing?
  9. E LAND  Inc.

    E LAND Inc. LawnSite Member
    Messages: 29

    hey instead of out in front what if that Jap maple when inside the sidewalk
    area in the corner where the downspout is? I think you need a little heigth
    in there as well. Of course it would have to be a smaller variety.
  10. mdvaden

    mdvaden LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,946

    Where the downspout is ? !!!

    "You're Overcooking My Grits!!" :clapping:

    Did you see remember the Titans with Denzel Washington ?

    No - that triangle is as small as possible, otherwise trees get sheared into ice cream cones.

    It could also be a Stewartia, Parrotia, etc.. Something that spreads up and outward in an inverted triangle.

    Of the first page images, I liked this one the most, although it's a bit complex for my taste - but I liked the foliage against the wall...


    It would be nice if posters could attach these, rather than the URLs to photobucket.

    Because if the album goes away, threads disintegrate a bit.

    Where the downspout is, you could tuck a small evergreen like a Sasanqua camellia in there, or taller perennial for growing season like Canna lily, Hollyhock, etc.. Cosmos maybe.

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