Kind of continued from here but topic was different and didn't want to hi-jack someone's thread. http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?p=4451896&posted=1#post4451896 Ok, that being said I first want to answer duekster First, what you mean by root flare? I used the pine back on the opinion of some others that it would help make the soil acidic which was what I needed for the holy; it did the trick to soon as I put the landscaping in and got the soil acidic my 4 year old holy took off like a weed. Here's some pics of the tree's I was refering to and the landscaping. Like I said I cut back most of the landscaping paper but IMHO more needs to be cut out and I can take some of the pine bark out and use elsewhere (This fall I will be expanding the landscaping in the back). So right now there is no paper up near the tree's is that good enough of should I even be thinking about pulling more out? Are the roots well enough out in the yard and deep enough they will get enough water? Also, last picture its hard to see but the leaves are starting to curl and tree looks sick so I've been watering up around the roots, just letting the water hose run for hours and it started to look better.