hiding in the closet? where have you been? everything alright? or did the reality of the bo sox cause you to lock yourself in the closet....... seriously though, computer blow up? __________________ Adam Gee, It's nice to know I'm missed, even if it is by a Yankee fan I'm gonna be quick, because I just gave a HUGE explanation of the whole job, then lost the thread because my freakin' before picture was too big! We just did another wall, about 55'x3-4" with stairs. Job was 2 guys for 6 days, and added another guy for 2 more. When about a day over what I had planned. Mostly I believe, due to slow excavation and backfill. Job was right on a main road going into Wolfeboro (huge summer town -- Lake Winnipesaukee) and had to actually run equipment into the road to access the wall. What was nice about this is that is was high profile. Thousands of cars a day are looking at my sign Here's a before: Sorry about the shade. Pic kinda sux.