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Leaf season....uuugggghhhh!

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Evan528, Oct 31, 2001.

  1. hustlers

    hustlers LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 257

    Stone & mulchers
    I mulched leaves all last year and never hauled nothing
    away. This year im hauling and bagging.

    Unless you only mulch a little you will have BAD lawn
    results diseases dead spots,etc
    , If your lawn is crap mulch it.
    Otherwise mulching lawns will never
    get you the priority accounts.
    But there is money in doing crap cleanups if
    your just mulching
  2. summitgroundskeeping

    summitgroundskeeping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    Mulch, mulch, mulch, cleanup, mulch, mulch, mulch, clean up. Lawns always look great. ?what?
  3. GreenQuest Lawn

    GreenQuest Lawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 822

    Well the seasons here by me are really predictable, The heavy leaf drop is always done by Oct 31. Right now I would say 90% of the leaves are off. The only ones that remain are trees like oaks that like to hang on to the leaves till Jan. The only problem here is we have a very limited time to finish our fall cleanups. Last year we had 7" of snow on Nov19 so that is what I am going by this year. The grass is done growing here so starting today I did my final cleanups. We dont try to get every leaf there is just no way we could wait that long. The customer gets the leafs cleaned up through Oct and then one final cleanup after the first of Nov. After that there is not many and are cleaned up in the spring.

    As far as the leaf mulching I do half-and-half, I will run the leaves over with the lazer-vac turned off to chop them up (they fill up the bagger too fast if not) this takes the piles down to a few inches of mulch. Then I fire up the vac and vacume it up. This has greatly reduced the amount that I haul away. It leaves some chopped up leaves but not alot.
  4. casey

    casey Guest
    Messages: 0

    If the city is picking up, 2 guys can tarp & haul a backyard faster than it can be double or triple mulch cut. A push blower & BP to get leaves in piles, & JRCO leaf plow to push 'em on tarp. Faster, cleaner, & less strain on equipment. Stone, you would have to quadruple cut that back with the 12.5 Tecumseh & it still would look like sh*&.
  5. Sorry the "city" provides no such services. Where I live it is not the socialist utopia that you are accustomed.

    Sorry I have no labor to play with a tarp.

    Yes a 16 hp OHV Tecumseh is better. I am going to buy a 16hp for the 32" machine next season.

    One must go back to the description of the photo of the thread starter. It states this is a half acre property=100 x 200 lot.
    So the back is over twice the size of the front lawn.

    If you were going to do the beds in this visit you would need to double cut the back lawn first (no big deal when you have a 32" ride on mower) then blow out the beds mulch another pass then make a pass with a bagger to satisfy the anal retentive left coast flakes.

    It's still quicker and much easier this way and you only have about 10% of garbage to haul away.

    I have gotten to a point where nothing is removed. I need the space in the truck for lime and fertilizer for during grinding season I fertilize twice and apply lime once. When your turf is actively growing thorough this time frame there is a lot of room to hide all the leaf matter in the canopy.
  6. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,354

    they can be mulched.i think u said that happened in one wk.
    that would be tough.but they can be cleaned up mulching,if thats your system.doubles ,gator tops, standard bottums,or if wet
    mulchers on the bottum for exstra lift. seems impossible
    but a good commercial mower can do the job in the right hands.
  7. Premo Services

    Premo Services LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,516

    :rolleyes: It looks like a HE!! of a lot of oak leaves in that pile.
    You could never mulch them oaks into dust and hide them in the thin turf areas, mabey maple or sweet gum leaves, but definetly not oak leaves.The job would look like the pic that was posted last year about mulching. .:mad: Wouldn`t work for me. I started using the lazer and ultra vac last year and am very pleased with the results. Yesterday I did jobs with heavy leaf cover, and one pass with the ultra vac, they were gone. Sure I did a lot of dumping, but I know it was a heck of a lot quicker than going over, and over, and over and over the lawn, trying to mulch that many leaves into dust, and hide them. When they are that thick, mulching does not work!!! Lets see some pics of jobs when the leaves are that thick with oak leaves, also mabey you could tell how many passes were neeeded to mulch them enough to hide them in the turf. With a lawn like Evan`s the best bet would have been to blow and tarp them to the pile, To me a lot quicker than trying to mulch them. Wow mulching that many leaves, What A MESS!!!
  8. lawnworker

    lawnworker LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 897

    how many of you have found a gater blade plus i high lift blade has to much airflow and blow out to mulch leaves,this is on a 36 Exmark walk unit.I found a single gater blade did better then doubles

  9. casey

    casey Guest
    Messages: 0

    I used to run a Toro single blade 32, as soon as that big blade hit anything heavy it would bog. Also there is, or was, no gator avail. for that mower. Wondering how you can grind a heavy covering with that equip?
  10. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
    Messages: 3,256

    Lawnworker, I posted something about this just recently. I first went with the Exmark Micro Mulch kit (after reading positive posts about it here). This was when the leaves just started coming down and I was still cutting grass. So very little leaves at this point. I wasn't crazy about the cut on the grass, but it did shred the small amount of leaves.
    Last week the leaves really dropped, and I decided to try doubles since most here rave about them for mulching leaves up.
    I left the Micro Mulch kit on (since I had just put it on about two weeks prior), which meant I had the mulch blades that came with the kit and added Gators.
    The blowout was unbearable!!. It was blowing the leaves away from the front of the mower, so I couldn't run them over to mulch them.
    So now, I'm going to remove the mulch kit, remove the mulch blade and try a high lift with the gator and just side discharge.
    If this isn't a whole lot better, I don't know what I'm gonna do then. Maybe use a bag.
    I also mentioned in the other post that going in reverse did a really good job of shredding leaves, and eliminating blowout. Unfortunately, the Metro only has "reverse assist" and I basically had to pull the mower around backwards! Whew, were my arms and legs sore!

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