I am preparing a presentation on LED light sources for use in outdoor lighting systems for an upcoming symposium. So I want to include information about various LED integrated fixtures as well as lamps. In reviewing a few major manufacturers web sites I am blown away by how little information they provide about their products. How can a lighting designer/contractor begin to do their job when all the information they are provided regarding a LED fixture is that it is based on a "1.9W LED chip". Yep that is it! No lumen output, no CCT, no CRI, no L70 rating, not even a subjective statement as to incandescent equivalency. This is just one example of what I am talking about. I am not trying to single them out. http://www.landscapelighting.com/op...lleries/pdf/ll_spec_sheet/landscape/15763.pdf This amazes me. Are you just supposed to trust them because of their name? Buy a few thousand dollars worth of products and hope for the best? Without the technical specifications, how do you guys who use these fixture lines know what you are getting into?